The ironic thing about this is you probably got this info from one of my exact PCT stickies on one of the many boards and just don't realize it because I have a new name!!!
PCT means post cycle therapy ,
NO SHIT EHH? so yes
you are starting the HCG 2 weeks following the last shot of test, but you are also starting and running at the minimum Nolvadex during it the entire time and at the minimum for two weeks following your last shot of HCG.. ( i dont know wtf your even talking about now, i postied it up clearly.m, pinning of HCG gos on for theses 2 weeks after test is stopped).
So it IS going into PCT ummmmm no ,
PCT begins the very day that your HCG does. NO IT DONT! HCG USE DURING PCT IS NOT A GOOD THING!!! god damin man If you start it 4-5 weeks before the end of your cycle, your testes are still going to be atrophied and you are wasting money!! again no! your keeping the size DURING cycle wich will help when pct comes Mid cycle HCG was designed by people taking super long doses to spike testes size back to normal because they found that if they did this when they did run HCG after their cycle, their natural HPTA came back quicker.
And why is this you ask, well because you are spiking your testosterone levels by using HCG, in fact so high that you might actually get gains from it, and if you are spiking test levels, you are indeed raising estrogen...This is
why alot of people develop Gyno DURING PCT yahhhh there is more reez then just that ohh guru, or acne, or severe other sides...
Now the other argument exists, just ask SupermanPC to those of you who have been around for long enough to remember this debate, HCG technically would slow down the rebound period of the HPTA or natural test production levels...this MAY be true. BUT, the other argument I have for this is that when yes, I believe HCG does slow down the natural re-uptake EXCEPT that when it does finally start to re-occur naturally , it
okkk sure,
no longer atrophied and can produce normal amounts of testosterone that shrunken testicles can produce...
finally i can atleast agree with you on this one, thats why u say to use hcg during near end of cycle ot keep ballz plump and READY for pct
So you see, there is no exact factual data for any of this...
As for running dbol at the end, well why not just run it the whole time?? Its really what you want to get out of it, of course it is going to spike your levels and give you more growth but so will running it the entire 18 weeks. yesiry im gonna run dbol for 18 weeks now to get the most out of it :-)
The reason that Dbol is "frontloaded" so often is because it gives an immediate gain when
test injections are taking their slow ass time to kick in, funny i have seen tests that show peek levels within 2-3days after testcyp injection, you realise its wating for the gains to come is whats going on right? and the user gets immediate satisfaction out of it..
Now the reason we cycle dbol is because it is not that great for your body, no oral is....So again, kicking it at the end, beginning, middle, whatever you decide to do is going to work, but lets not forget why we cycle orals for safety reasons, so consider that...
