do you guys get depressed off cycle?

[Flexmaster]

man, to be completely honest i have been really depressed ever since i came off AAS. i get depressed about a lot of things right now, and never really have problems with depression on cycle. i almost hate going to the gym because everyone else is on something and i feel like a complete loser. i feel SO small right now.

 

[Chaps]

Well first question is, what did you do for PCT for your last cycle? Also something like Tribex 500 would help lift your mood because testosterone is a natural anti-depressant, also give yourself a week of from the gym sounds like you need it.

 

[Flexmaster]

i always do pct right, and it works every time. i also know that low test levels are a cause of depression, but i dont think this is a real possibility. i dont really have the chance to take a break from the gym because i work in one 4 days a week.

 

[Flexmaster]

after reading what i just wrote it looks like i can make excuses all day long...i think it jut comes down to the fact that you get out what you put in. and i havent been putting a whole lot of effort into this lifestyle because i know i wont grow well beng natty. i have made some good strength gains though, i can bb row 225 for 8 reps now and can still pull 495 from the floor for 2. i'm curling 50-55's for 8 and repping out 225 for 10-12 still. what the hell am i saying??? i'm gonna go eat something, lay in the tanning bed for a while and watch either blood n guts or cost of redemption. have a nice day fellers.LOL i'm gonna go enjoy myself. i'm in a really good mood now. later brotha's.

 

[Chaps]

Well from the sound of it your just going through what alot of us go through when dieting actually, that horrible feeling of feeling "small". I know myself no matter how much muscle i seem to pack on it's never enough, i still feel small.

 

[Southern Comfor]

Right now Flex we are rowing the same boat! With school, bills, 2 jobs, women problems and my fat gut constantly on my mind it makes me wander if it would be easier to just be fat and happy like everyone else. Not to mention my last Prop inject is tommorrow and I know things are only going to go down hill. Ive been eating 5-htp like candy for a week now and still think I could be a little happier. Made the biggest mistake of 2005 and went to the beach today, it was a nice day, but, I felt like the softest bastard on the beach, Ive got to loose the fat and harden up!

 

[Cannons]

I feel ya bro, sometimes all I want to do is lay on the couch and watch tv. I've stood up a couple hot girls for dates because I just didn't feel like being social and was down on myself cause I felt I didn't "look" as good as I should. I got out of that slump though because people like us look BETTER than the normal guy, and when we are off gear we look more normal but still better!!! Go out to the club or bar talk to some women and your confidence will be boosted especially when they grab onto you and feel the muscles that you have that most other guys that are around don't!! 5HTP and phosphatidyl serine are good mood enhancers though. I take them regularly. Its all good brother, you've still got it.

 

[brew]

BIG bump on cannons 5 HTP is the shit........get some you'll thank us. I have incorpaorted this into my PCT as well helps with that 'feeling small' shit......plus it helps pick up energy levels and you'll want to go to the gym and bust your ass.

 

[mikeswift]

what is this 5 htp you speak of? I suffer from depression and poor body image myself from time to time so I'm very interested

 

[saturn1]

The amino acid L-tryptophan (banned in the US) with the help of an enzyme converts into 5-htp.

5-Htp is a more effective supp in that it crosses the blood brain barrier and increases serotonin to a greater degree.

This stuff is awesome. You can start at 100mg/day.........Ive read micheal murrays book on 5-htp and depending on severity you can go up to 300mg-3 times a day.

You dont wanna start high due to the possibilities of serotonin syndrone caused by excesive levels.

Pharmaceutical anti-depresants work by stopping the reabsorbtion of serotonin making serotonin more available hence the class "Selective Serotonin reuptake inhibitor".

However if you dont produce enough serotonin in the first place these can be useless.

5-htp eliminates those problems and also gives you the benefit of less side effects. There are few side effects. Nausea, headache, diahrea........Yet very rare. The nausea usually occurs with people who take a high dose too fast.

It also help appetite control. 30% of serotonin is metabolized in the gut and plays a crucial role in the foods we eat. "sugar junkies" may want to give it a shot 100mg 30minutes before meals.

There's plenty more on this stuff but Im tired of typing. Later.

 

[mikeswift]

thanks Cyphon... going to order some up and give it a shot to help with the appetite control and mood.

 

[Chaps]

I found 5-htp didn't do shit for me, BUT when i used it I was clinically depressed. So I had to use Paxil.

 

[tilla52]

Yeah I recently came off and feel small as shit. No pumps and no fun and feeling very weak. Some days I feel nice n full and others I feel like a lil shit. But of course I still take in mass calories and protien, and work out hard.

 

[Bignick]

psychologically i feel like i cant do shit while im off cycle....THATS NOT GOOD! That is a huge problem in this community, alot of research shows that the "addictiveness" of steroids lyes in that aspect....i agree...when im "on" i feel great....when im off...i am down until im back on again!

 

[da_Fonz]

I think some get depressed b/c they become dependent of AAS. I dont really get depressed, i just realize to stress different things when i'm off. My goals change and therefore i stay motivated to reach the new ones. Sorry i cant be more help bud.

 

[dirtyleg]

flex, man I think that you have hit on a good topic, I think that this depression exists a lot more in thhis community than we think, man, I used to be the most social happy go lucky guy on this planet, but since I started cycling I hae majorly changed, now don't get me wrong I knew these were all possible sides before ever starting, and by know means am I turning my back on all this, I just think that if we talk about it a little more we will probably understand it a little more. Of course we all know some of the obvious reasonls and effects of hormone changes so maybe when people have a suggestion like the one on the 5-htp above we all benefit, I used to see people who were depressed and I would think yeah big fucking deal! nut up and get over it, but if it ever really hits you, you then realize that it's like youre chained down as much as you want to feel better you just can't, and then little spurts of happiness will come, amd you think you will be fine, but usually a low is just right aroundd the corner.. A couple things I found, if it gets bad get yourself around your family and true friends. make small goals ones that aren't totally cheese, but don't just setyourself up for another failure, it's amazing the morale and confidence you can gain just by starting and finishing something, and one more thing then I'm done, get outside get sun!!!! For some reason I can just chill in my hammock for a bit in the sun and feel like a new person, anyways sorry to ramble on just that I've been through it pretty hard so any way I can help I try good luck bros

 

[Crazymank]

What I learned in the past is the longer my duration of cycle, the more my body shuts down, the more depressed I got after. PCT is great, but until you reach your normal hormone levels, your not going to feel right.

Flex- if you want to come over here I got a big hug for you.... We can watch oprah and eat bon bons...too

 

[Irishmuscle]

I actually get more depressed on cycle than when off. I have been off 6 weeks now and feel great lost very little size and am still bigger than most of the guys that train in the gym.
The thing that has really got to me in past off cycles is people asking have you lost weight or are you not training at the minute. That never failed to make me go back on early. God that cracks me up.

 

[Crazymank]

Do you guys think you'd have depression if you had a hot woman like flex??

 

[Irishmuscle]

Flex isn't a hot woman is he? LOL