Eq and Var only?

[Southern Comfor]

Thinking of trying out some Eq and Var only for a few week, I ran Eq alone a few year back for about 8 weeks and it pushed me through the wall I was faced with. I know yall are all thinking TEST but Im honestly going to try and get by without it this go round, just too many side effects that affect my job.
I was thinking EQ @ 600/week for 12 weeks and
Anavar @ 60mg/day for weeks 1-6 and then 10-14

As you can see Im just wanting to add maybe 12-14 lbs of lean lean lean body mass through the summer with minimal water, this ghrp-6 has done wonders and I dont want to pass up and oppurtunity to add something to it.

 

[irishpride]

personally eq does nothing for me so i dont use it but i love love love var..I agree with bd2see though and think primo var with low test or proviorin would be great..

 

[John44]

Two separate Summers I used EQ as may base for exactly what you are doing (I think) I used 400-600mg/wk, and was basiclly going for steady gains with no water retention. Eq does a body good used to be my MO. I had no issues with high blood pressure and or ED. (But I have never had problems or history or propensity to either as well) Heck my BP is usually 105 over 75 and I am no cardio expert or healthnut to say the least. IMO though if you respond to highly anabolic compounds the way I do then you would be remiss not to give 300mg test prop a go as well. Your results should be outstanding. It was funny because I was reading the scale wrong almost that whole summer, I kept weighing myself thinking I was 210 lbs. Meanwhile I was reading kilos on the 10lbs.... So basically I had GAINED 12+ lbs, gotten more ripped and lean and so on. It wasn't until later that fall that I looked and figured out the the scale was set to 200lbs on the big beam, and that the little beam read lbs on one side and kgs on the other. Less is more sometimes.

 

[saudades]

I did very well with eq, but I was always on my HRT dose, so I don't know if that counts. If you do use eq, you would have to use at least 600mg/week to get anything out of it. Never tried var, so I can't tell you how that would work.

You probably could use prop 300mg/week without the bad sides you experienced since it clears so quickly or do a low-dose test e or cyp at 200mg/week. Just keep the estrogen levels in check, and I think you'd be fine.

 

[Presser]

I Couldnt Gain 5 Pounds From Eq Alone, But Best Luck To Ya

 

[saudades]

Slightly OT here, but I think the reason (and this is just a hypothesis) for some that gain well off of eq and those that don't is the ratio of fast twitch to slow twitch muscle fibers. I would think that those with more slow twitch muscle fibers (usually more of an ectomorphic body type) would benefit more when you consider their characteristics. Presser looks to me to have a lot more fast twitch muscle fibers (more of a mesomorphic body type) so that may be why he doesn't respond well to eq alone. What do you think?

 

[mikeswift]

I've run EQ many times with great success. I think everyone is different like Saudades says and depending on your body type you will respond better/worse.

I did a cycle of EQ, Primo, Var and Proviron with excellent results. I've also just run EQ and Winny with decent gains. Slow, quality muscle with little to no sides has always been my experience with EQ

 

[dreww]

Slightly OT here, but I think the reason (and this is just a hypothesis) for some that gain well off of eq and those that don't is the ratio of fast twitch to slow twitch muscle fibers. I would think that those with more slow twitch muscle fibers (usually more of an ectomorphic body type) would benefit more when you consider their characteristics. Presser looks to me to have a lot more fast twitch muscle fibers (more of a mesomorphic body type) so that may be why he doesn't respond well to eq alone. What do you think?

Im very ectomorphic, and eq didnt do crap for me gains wise. What it did do was give me good endurance gains since I used it while dieting and doing alot of cardio.

 

[mikeswift]

EQ increasing your Red Blood Cell count which is why it's great for endurance and it's also why it raises your blood pressure because the RBC thicken your blood. If you're doing cardio it will keep your BP from going up at all.

The increased endurance is just another reason why I like EQ

 

[BiggerStronger]

I used to love EQ in combination with Test Enanthate and d-bol. I've never used it alone so I can't comment on weight gains due to it solely, but those were good cycles where I gained about 10-12lbs each.

 

[saudades]

Im very ectomorphic, and eq didnt do crap for me gains wise. What it did do was give me good endurance gains since I used it while dieting and doing alot of cardio.

Did you ever use when trying to bulk?

 

[dreww]

Did you ever use when trying to bulk?

yea, at 400mg/wk. did nothing noticeable. no hunger increase either.

 

[saudades]

Well, then that shoots that theory out of the water. Must just be body chemistry then.

 

[Crazymank]

well hold on though. from what i understand EQ should be at the 600-800mg range to see any gains.

Its part of the reason why i never tried it. Its a bit expensive to run at that range.

 

[saudades]

Hmmm...that may be right. I think I was using 600mg/week.

 

[dreww]

if I ever use it again, it will be at 800mg/wk and it will only be because I got it for a steal.