First Time Full Stack Cycle
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doctorwill
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Chaps, you probably know more about this than I do, but can't you just add proviron or masteron to your stack to increase the amount of free test? I use proviron since it is a mild anti-e.
You are dead on right that you should take liver protectants and also get a liver panel run every couple of months. Would taking an aromatase inhibitor help with the problems with the BP? (My guess is it would if it reduces the water in your system.)
But Femera alone will increase your IGF, and aromasin (sp?) increases it a bit more (something like 28% and it doesn't hurt your cholesterol level).
Wouldn't it just be as easy to add aromasin and proviron and not have to worry about your liver and yoru BP? You get the IGF-1 benefits and have more free test, though I am not sure if you get MORE or LESS of a bang from D-bol versus aromasin and proviron.
You are dead on right that you should take liver protectants and also get a liver panel run every couple of months. Would taking an aromatase inhibitor help with the problems with the BP? (My guess is it would if it reduces the water in your system.)
But Femera alone will increase your IGF, and aromasin (sp?) increases it a bit more (something like 28% and it doesn't hurt your cholesterol level).
Wouldn't it just be as easy to add aromasin and proviron and not have to worry about your liver and yoru BP? You get the IGF-1 benefits and have more free test, though I am not sure if you get MORE or LESS of a bang from D-bol versus aromasin and proviron.
Yes you could add Masteron to your stack, it acts as an anti-e also, but because it is a DHT derivative it's hard on the Hair and the prostate, but it doesn't cause water retention so BP wouldn't be an issue. Here is something to think about, 30mg of d-bol weekly rivals 400mg of test weekly, this is striahgt out of CME. Plus you don't have to use huge doses, like for a beginner something like this: Week 1: 20mg Week 2: 25mg Week 3: 30mg Week 4: 25mg Week 6: 20mg. Even 10mg of D-bol a day is potent, their is a reason they used to call it the breakfast of Champions! lol. And the use of Femara or Aromasin would be helpful to eliminate excess water therefore lowering blood pressure. As for the more advanced athlete doses of D-bol should be 5mg per 25lbs of bodyweight, so for a 200lber that's 40mg daily. And Femara or Amromasin would be a good idea for use with the D-bol because of it's ability to aromatise into a supergirl like estrogen. And like i said get your blood work done, check your bp also, if you find your BP is sky high, i suggest you search on here for a way to lower it, i read something on here a while back, about a stack of supplements that lowered your BP significantly, so that would be very helpful. Another thing to keep inmind is that a stack of multiple compounds (3 or more) in low doses is more potent than just 1 or 2 compounds in high doses, so their is more room to play with your doses in the future. So by using Test, eq, deca and d-bol you only need to use minimal doses. I'd say run the test/eq/d-bol then drop the eq and replace it with the Deca, switching up the compounds will be more effective than just running them all at once.
OK I bumped Test to 400 and evrything else the same. Split the injections to stabilize levels. Injected In glut no real problem, put todays injection into Delt worked out came home ate dinner. Delt feels like it has cement in it.. Is this the EQ. I never had it hurt with deca or the single run of test before. Just curious, its not bad same as like a tetnis shot. Let me know
irishpride
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what size pin are you using? also it sounds like a oil build up,just massage the area
doctorwill
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Right after you inject the oil, just rub the area for about a minute to help the oil spread out throughout the muscle. That makes a huge difference. Rubbing it the next day doesn't do much. The key is to rub it right away.
Also, I may be wrong about this, but you would be better off JUST using quads. If you hit each quad with 3 cc's, you can do 6 cc's at one time. If you do this twice a week, you can do up to 12 cc's a week. With quads, I would go with 1" 25 gauge pins.
Quads and glutes are just so much bigger and easier to use (except having to twist around to hit your glute).
If you need to inject more than 12 cc's a week, add in the glutes and you can easily add more. Or get higher dosed gear.
Am I wrong about how often you can hit a muscle a week? I thought that twice was OK - especially if you use smaller pins (which leave smaller holes)?
Also, I may be wrong about this, but you would be better off JUST using quads. If you hit each quad with 3 cc's, you can do 6 cc's at one time. If you do this twice a week, you can do up to 12 cc's a week. With quads, I would go with 1" 25 gauge pins.
Quads and glutes are just so much bigger and easier to use (except having to twist around to hit your glute).
If you need to inject more than 12 cc's a week, add in the glutes and you can easily add more. Or get higher dosed gear.
Am I wrong about how often you can hit a muscle a week? I thought that twice was OK - especially if you use smaller pins (which leave smaller holes)?
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