How long second cycle

[danieljk91]

Alright... Less than 2 weeks on my first cycle (cycle of prohormones) and I'm wanting to plan my next cycle ahead of time.. I want to do a cycle of deca, dbol, tren and test (I plan on cutting on my 8 weeks between cycles and want to put on a lot of mass with this cycle). I'd like to know what a decent time to run this cycle would be (8 weeks? 12 weeks?), dosage recommendation... Also plan on running arimidex thru the cycle .5mg eod is good?) On cycle support and pct with nolva (would like to know a good dose for this, too).. I'd like to know what you guys have for advice and if you'd add anything

 

[Presser]

Alright... Less than 2 weeks on my first cycle (cycle of prohormones) and I'm wanting to plan my next cycle ahead of time.. I want to do a cycle of deca, dbol, tren and test (I plan on cutting on my 8 weeks between cycles and want to put on a lot of mass with this cycle). I'd like to know what a decent time to run this cycle would be (8 weeks? 12 weeks?), dosage recommendation... Also plan on running arimidex thru the cycle .5mg eod is good?) On cycle support and pct with nolva (would like to know a good dose for this, too).. I'd like to know what you guys have for advice and if you'd add anything

What kind of testosterone? I would use propionate, tren ace, winny, and only use the dianabol as a jump start for the first 2-3 weeks tops!

I would also run this cycle 12-16 weeks.

dosages would look like this:

prop 200mg EOD
tren ace 50-75mg EOD
Dianabol 30-50mg ED for first 3 weeks
Winny 25-30mg ED
IGF-1 Lr3 50mcgs ED

That is the cycle of all cycles!

 

[danieljk91]

What kind of testosterone? I would use propionate, tren ace, winny, and only use the dianabol as a jump start for the first 2-3 weeks tops!

I would also run this cycle 12-16 weeks.

dosages would look like this:

prop 200mg EOD
tren ace 50-75mg EOD
Dianabol 30-50mg ED for first 3 weeks
Winny 25-30mg ED
IGF-1 Lr3 50mcgs ED

That is the cycle of all cycles!

Yeah ive read to cut the dbol after first couple weeks but winny instead of deca for mass? I thought winny would be better for cutting.. I was also going to ask what test you'd recommend so that helps lol... The igf seems tempting!

 

[Presser]

Yeah ive read to cut the dbol after first couple weeks but winny instead of deca for mass? I thought winny would be better for cutting.. I was also going to ask what test you'd recommend so that helps lol... The igf seems tempting!

the winny works synergistically with the test and tren big time and yields some serious mass gains combined, quality lean muscle mass, you can add the deca also, but i would not take the winny out. if you do this then you won't need much more then 400mgs of deca per week. and if you can get fast acting deca (NPP) then even better so u can take it with ur other short esters ,

and yes the igf-1 lr3 i would never do a cycle without, you will get much much more out of your cycles when adding in IGF through having more receptors for the gear to bind to etc..So a must in my opinion

 

[Mountain_Man]

What kind of testosterone? I would use propionate, tren ace, winny, and only use the dianabol as a jump start for the first 2-3 weeks tops!

I would also run this cycle 12-16 weeks.

dosages would look like this:

prop 200mg EOD
tren ace 50-75mg EOD
Dianabol 30-50mg ED for first 3 weeks
Winny 25-30mg ED
IGF-1 Lr3 50mcgs ED

That is the cycle of all cycles!

Could not agree more with ya P great cycle there

 

[danieljk91]

Alrighty, what about on cycle support... Would adex be enough with gear support? And nolva for pct or should I run it with clomid?

 

[Mountain_Man]

Alrighty, what about on cycle support... Would adex be enough with gear support? And nolva for pct or should I run it with clomid?

Adex is fine .5 eod should do the trick as far as pct there are a lot of great threads here at mc explaining that I have not come off in ten years so hopefully someone will help u with that

 

[danieljk91]

Adex is fine .5 eod should do the trick as far as pct there are a lot of great threads here at mc explaining that I have not come off in ten years so hopefully someone will help u with that

I may end up just doing a predetermined cycle fRom psl... I've only read good things about them and the cycle I'm eyeing is about 600.. Not bad

 

[Presser]

i have no idea what that means

 

[danieljk91]

i have no idea what that means

Purity Source Labs has some predetermined stacks for good deals, SERMS and AI's included. It's got Test enthanate, deca, dbol, anadrol with arimidex, clomid and nolva for a 12 week cycle and 4 week pct

 

[danieljk91]

Here's the cycle, actually.. seems solid let me know what you think... and all I've heard is everything from PSL is good to go:
1-12 weeks 750mg Testosterone Enanthate
1-12 weeks 600mg Nandrolone Decaonate (Deca)
1-4 weeks 40mg Methandienone every day
1-4 week 50mg Anadrol every day -
1-12 weeks 20mg Arimidex 0.50mg (1/2 tablet) every other day

PCT:
11-13 weeks 500 iu HCG every day
12-16 weeks 20mg Tamoxifen every day
13-17 weeks clomid 1 week 100mg Every day / 2 week 100mg Every day/ 3 week 50mg Every day/ 4 week 50mg Every day

 

[Iron Game]

Here's the cycle, actually.. seems solid let me know what you think... and all I've heard is everything from PSL is good to go:
1-12 weeks 750mg Testosterone Enanthate
1-12 weeks 600mg Nandrolone Decaonate (Deca)
1-4 weeks 40mg Methandienone every day
1-4 week 50mg Anadrol every day -
1-12 weeks 20mg Arimidex 0.50mg (1/2 tablet) every other day

Don't forget your IGF-1 LR3 and you have a solid cycle and post cycle.
PCT:
11-13 weeks 500 iu HCG every day
12-16 weeks 20mg Tamoxifen every day
13-17 weeks clomid 1 week 100mg Every day / 2 week 100mg Every day/ 3 week 50mg Every day/ 4 week 50mg Every day

Looks solid bro. Don't forget your igf-1 and your straight.

 

[Iron Game]

What kind of testosterone? I would use propionate, tren ace, winny, and only use the dianabol as a jump start for the first 2-3 weeks tops!

I would also run this cycle 12-16 weeks.

dosages would look like this:

prop 200mg EOD
tren ace 50-75mg EOD
Dianabol 30-50mg ED for first 3 weeks
Winny 25-30mg ED
IGF-1 Lr3 50mcgs ED

That is the cycle of all cycles!

This is a great cycle. You might want to give it a try. Lots to solid gains. Take it from experience. This is probably the best cycle you could do

 

[danieljk91]

This is a great cycle. You might want to give it a try. Lots to solid gains. Take it from experience. This is probably the best cycle you could do

I don't doubt it! I've seen Presser recommend this one many times. I'm torn between thes two cycles

 

[Iron Game]

I don't doubt it! I've seen Presser recommend this one many times. I'm torn between thes two cycles

I gotcha there what makes you torn?

 

[danieljk91]

I gotcha there what makes you torn?

Well for one convenience of the PSL. Everything is there, just pay it and it shows. But if Presser's recommendation is worth it, I think PSL actually has a stack that just doesn't include dbol or tren, I have to check... so I can just order it separately. Both seem like great cycles, I probably can't go wrong with either

 

[Masher59]

Tren for the win!

 

[Iron Game]

Sounds like you have done your research bro. Go with your gut but I love me some tren, lol.

 

[danieljk91]

Sounds like you have done your research bro. Go with your gut but I love me some tren, lol.

This site has been nothing but awesome and informative reads. Nowhere else can you get information from people who aren't just out to be dicks or one up you... If you are on here for even a couple weeks and don't learn something then you must not know how to read haha

 

[Iron Game]

This site has been nothing but awesome and informative reads. Nowhere else can you get information from people who aren't just out to be dicks or one up you... If you are on here for even a couple weeks and don't learn something then you must not know how to read haha

Too true, lol