I take cycle assist, it's a nice all in one, contains hawthorn, saw palmetto, milk thistle, celery seed, and grape seed and a few others. I also like Orange Triad as a multi. It covers all the essentials and has added ingredients for digestion and joint support. I've been taking super cissus for extra joint help for about 6 weeks now and it's worked pretty good except I think it zapped my appetite when I first started using it. And of course EFA's. Add in prohormones and it makes for some ridiculous daily pill consumption.