Offseason Cycle ????????????

[cbigswole05]

I Won The Texas State Bodybuilding Championship Back In 2002 And The Retired From Competition. I Want To Make A Comeback And Realize Now That The Game Has Changed Over The Last 5yrs. The Npc Level Bodybuilders Are Taking What The Natiol Level Competitors And Pros Are Taking.
My Last Offseason Stack Was 25mg Dbol, 400mg Eq A Week. I Got Up To 270lbs At 9%bf.
I Have Also Used Humilin-r Off And On For The Last Couple Of Years Becuz I Didn't Want To Use Steroids Anymore.
I Am 36yrs Old And Weigh 255lbs About 12-13% Bf. Here Is My Plan For My Offseason Comeback:

Week 1-4
Test Cyp 300mg Eod 900mg Week
Equipoise 300mg Eod 900mg Week
D-bol 25mg Day 175mg Week

Humilin-r 5iu In Am 5iu Postworkout
Igf-1 20mcg In Am 40mcg Postworout

Week 5-8
Sustonon 375mg Eod 1125 Mg Week
Tren 112.5mg Eod 337mg Week
Winny Tabs 30mg Ed 210mg Week

Will Start Cycle Over Again Same As Week 1-4
Any Feedback Would Be Appreciated.

 

[vertigorocks]

I Won The Texas State Bodybuilding Championship Back In 2002 And The Retired From Competition. I Want To Make A Comeback And Realize Now That The Game Has Changed Over The Last 5yrs. The Npc Level Bodybuilders Are Taking What The Natiol Level Competitors And Pros Are Taking.
My Last Offseason Stack Was 25mg Dbol, 400mg Eq A Week. I Got Up To 270lbs At 9%bf.
I Have Also Used Humilin-r Off And On For The Last Couple Of Years Becuz I Didn't Want To Use Steroids Anymore.
I Am 36yrs Old And Weigh 255lbs About 12-13% Bf. Here Is My Plan For My Offseason Comeback:

Week 1-4
Test Cyp 300mg Eod 900mg Week
Equipoise 300mg Eod 900mg Week
D-bol 25mg Day 175mg Week

Humilin-r 5iu In Am 5iu Postworkout
Igf-1 20mcg In Am 40mcg Postworout

Week 5-8
Sustonon 375mg Eod 1125 Mg Week
Tren 112.5mg Eod 337mg Week
Winny Tabs 30mg Ed 210mg Week

Will Start Cycle Over Again Same As Week 1-4
Any Feedback Would Be Appreciated.

I know you're going to get mixed answers on this one, but I know there will be one thing that everyone will say. Running EQ, even at 900mgs a week for 4 weeks is pointless, even if you do change compounds.

Also, I wouldn't change the test you are using throughout the cycle, Id keep the same one. If anything at least start with the sust since it has prop, the short acting ester.

Dbol at the start is good, winny at the end is good

 

[vertigorocks]

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[bigworm6]

I honestly dont think you have to bump the doses up just because others are relying on it. You obv. have a good frame, so i dont see the need to bump strait into 1g of test. How about 750 mg's a week? If your not happy with that dose then bump it up some more, everyone is different. And with the EQ, it needs to be ran for atleast 12 weeks, ide say 14-16 weeks would be good. And 900mg's of EQ seems alil high also, maybe decrease that down to 600-700mg's and see what it dose for you, just watch your B.P while taking that much EQ

 

[Spiderman]

When was your last cycle bud...that will depend a lot on the dosages you need to take to get the results you are wanting. It looks like you've been off for awhile, so you really will get some great benefits from a cycle that is a little less heavy and possibly lasts a little longer. I am assuming that this is somewhat of a frame from a cycle you have done before...it looks good for the most part. I would lower the eq for sure and run it longer. I would also keep to one test if you can. Honestly, everything looks a little high to me, but you are a big guy. The one thing I would caution you on is if this is your first cycle back in awhile, you won't need anywhere near the doses you were using before to get similar results. Good luck bro and let us know what you decide and how it goes.

 

[cbigswole05]

Offseason Cycle

My Last Real Cycle Was 5yrs Ago. My Current Training Is 4 Weeks Milos(giant Sets) 4 Weeks Doggcrap, Then 4 Weeks Strength Program(5x5 Compound Movements/eod)
I Decided To Lower My Dosages To 600mg Test Cyp For 8 Weeks Then Switch To Test Ena For 8 Weeks. 600mg Eq For 16 Weeks. 25mg D-bol For Weeks 1-6.

 

[saudades]

My Last Real Cycle Was 5yrs Ago. My Current Training Is 4 Weeks Milos(giant Sets) 4 Weeks Doggcrap, Then 4 Weeks Strength Program(5x5 Compound Movements/eod)
I Decided To Lower My Dosages To 600mg Test Cyp For 8 Weeks Then Switch To Test Ena For 8 Weeks. 600mg Eq For 16 Weeks. 25mg D-bol For Weeks 1-6.

Test cyp and test e are pretty much the same thing. Any particular reason for switching? Other than that, looks pretty good.

 

[mikeswift]

Test cyp and test e are pretty much the same thing. Any particular reason for switching? Other than that, looks pretty good.

I was wondering the same thing... I've made great gains off of EQ in the past myself, I'm a big fan.

 

[MMX2]

Texas bodybuilding has changed over the past 5 years with a change in NPC chair people and most competitors competing in other states.
The game as definitely changed as well and the masters guys are beating the younger guys in a lot of cases as they have more money and time to invest.
As for your cycle, I think it looks good however, I would move the sust to the beginning of the cycle. It is a multi time releasing compound and by the time it completely gets in your system, the cycle is over if you leave it for the last.
I would start with the sust and end with the cyp.
You could also consider frontloading with cyp as well at the start along with the test.
Not required but it is an option based on your experience.
Also make sure you divide your winny tabs into multiple dosages a day.
How long will your PCT last and will you move to a contest prep cycle after the completion or repeat this cycle again, then compete later in 2008?

 

[DB006]

you guys are really overanalyzing...there is no magic formula....i think it looks good, however i would drop eq to 600 and add 600 deca as well....you can change your test esters after 6-8 weeks.....so maybe switch to enth after cyp....save the tren and winny for prep time.....insulin and igf protocol looks solid......now eat up cause all that dont mean shit....

 

[Presser]

Im A Big Fan Of Eq And Deca Together In The Past I Was Anyways, Most Guys Think They Are To Similar To Use Together And Therfor Think Its Poimntless, But As Db006 Stated They Are Good Together