The Dark Side of Nolvadex

[*N.V.S*]

[font=&quot]While Novaldex may have saved the lives of many breast cancer patients, it can cause serious problems when used by healthy women. A recent case study disclosed the effects of long-term use in a 26 year old bodybuilder. (the woman denied using any other type of drug, including anabolic steroids) she took 20 to 40mg of Novaldex a day for 6 months. She used it because she heard that it would help lower body-fat.

Novaldex did indeed speed fat loss from her buttocks and upper thighs - both of which have a preponderance of estrogen receptors in women. Paradoxically, however, it also limited her ability to loose fat from her abdominal area. There there were the side effects: loss of breast mass (oh yes), night sweats and hot flashes due to the chemical menopause induced by Novaldex (not fun). Because it effectively blocks estrogen action in women, it also increases testosterone activity.

Novaldex is linked to serious side effects in women:
Endometrial cancer, or cancer of the uterus
Excessive blood clotting, which can lead to stroke
Birth defects if used during pregnancy
Ovarian cysts
Loss of bone density due to lack of estrogen activity
Cataracts and other eye damage affecting the cornea and retina
Hot flashes
Vaginal discharge
Loss of sex drive

Personally, i would never run Tamoxifen for periods exceeding 4 to 6 weeks precontest. I would never run anything over 20mg ed and i almost always add Proviron at 25mg. Nothing too heavy but I will not compete without the Nolva/Proviron combo as it is an absolute must have for those last few weeks before a show, IMHO. I absolutely love it. But Nolva must not be dropped suddenly and make sure you dose it to where you have enough to ween off gradually after a show. Great for that last bit of stubborn fat in those dreaded areas: abdomen, thighs, buttocks. Now some theories state that Nolva has actually done the opposite in some women and made fat loss almost impossible, however there are no studies or any solid evidence to prove that.


If you would like to read up some more on this issue, consider the following referances: [/font][font=&quot] Seehusen, D.A., et al. (2002) Tamoxifen as an erogenic agent in women bodybuilders. Clin J Sports Med. 12:313-314[/font]
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[Get_Swole]

interesting article def. didnt know it caused that serious of sides in women very scary.

 

[DragonRider]

N.V.S
What advantage does proviron provide for a female? How long can a woman safely run it?
I don't know anything about how women respond to most steroids other than low dose anavar.

 

[*N.V.S*]

N.V.S
What advantage does proviron provide for a female? How long can a woman safely run it?
I don't know anything about how women respond to most steroids other than low dose anavar.

Proviron works like an anti E. It is added to the nolva for added hardness and more dramatic estrogen supression which results in dramatic fat loss in stubborn areas. However I would not run it longer than 4 weeks at the most and nothing higher than 25mg ed, as it is too harsh for some women to handle ue to androgenic sides which are accentuated when added to nolvadex. Even at these doses women need to keep a close eye on things, the first being the scratchiness in the voice. However, a smart women will be smart about her dosing, timing and research and long term sides can be avoided.



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[dreww]

Proviron works like an anti E. It is added to the nolva for added hardness and more dramatic estrogen supression which results in dramatic fat loss in stubborn areas. However I would not run it longer than 4 weeks at the most and nothing higher than 25mg ed, as it is too harsh for some women to handle ue to androgenic sides which are accentuated when added to nolvadex. Even at these doses women need to keep a close eye on things, the first being the scratchiness in the voice. However, a smart women will be smart about her dosing, timing and research and long term sides can be avoided.



nvs

n.v.s. what is your experience of single dosing proviron for libido increases? Do you notice this? I dont know what else you use, like maybe test which of course would increase your libido probably quite more than proviron...but just proviron alone....what have you noticed (if you've ever used it like that)?

you hear guys say to give one to their ladies to get them in the mood (with their permission of course), but Ive never heard a womans experience with it.

 

[*N.V.S*]

n.v.s. what is your experience of single dosing proviron for libido increases? Do you notice this? I dont know what else you use, like maybe test which of course would increase your libido probably quite more than proviron...but just proviron alone....what have you noticed (if you've ever used it like that)?

you hear guys say to give one to their ladies to get them in the mood (with their permission of course), but Ive never heard a womans experience with it.

Proviron works great for men in that aspect but from personal experience, I am a dead fish on it. lol Coupled with the nolva and its like you guys being on straight deca. Couldn't get in the mood to save my life. Now, test has a reputation for increaing women's drive significantly. However that is not something i have experienced and can run test (prop of course) as high as 200mg/week and not be affected at all. No big loss as I have a very healthy sex drive anyway...ask Fonz. LOL

I am very fortunate in many aspects when it comes to gear. I usually experience nothing but sides at lower doses and can benefit tremendously from gear if i up my doses and keep myself monitored. I may not have an increased sex drive, but the benefits i reap off test are AWESOME. So i don't mind the fact that i do not have an increased libido. Instead, my skin is smoother, my hair fuller and thicker, in awesome spirits all the time.
Test has to be at the top of my list of favorites....aside from Tren but that is a WHOLE other story


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[da_Fonz]

However that is not something i have experienced and can run test (prop of course) as high as 200mg/week and not be affected at all. No big loss as I have a very healthy sex drive anyway...ask Fonz. LOL

nvs

I can def attest to this. Thank goodness I'll be back on soon.

 

[dreww]

Proviron works great for men in that aspect but from personal experience, I am a dead fish on it. lol Coupled with the nolva and its like you guys being on straight deca. Couldn't get in the mood to save my life. Now, test has a reputation for increaing women's drive significantly. However that is not something i have experienced and can run test (prop of course) as high as 200mg/week and not be affected at all. No big loss as I have a very healthy sex drive anyway...ask Fonz. LOL

I am very fortunate in many aspects when it comes to gear. I usually experience nothing but sides at lower doses and can benefit tremendously from gear if i up my doses and keep myself monitored. I may not have an increased sex drive, but the benefits i reap off test are AWESOME. So i don't mind the fact that i do not have an increased libido. Instead, my skin is smoother, my hair fuller and thicker, in awesome spirits all the time.
Test has to be at the top of my list of favorites....aside from Tren but that is a WHOLE other story


nvs

not what I wanted to hear concerning the proviron. But I guess you are not like all other women and results can be different. Not that my girl isnt a down ass girl, she is compared to most, but when Im on I could always use more

lmao @ deadfish. the increased libido, at least from this mans point of view, isnt always a great thing. My drive is pretty good when "natural", and straight up insane when on. I'd rather have sex than hit the gym or eat right. It hard to work around it too, cause it a "primitive' drive. I manage to get my responsibilities done though.

 

[w000dy]

Great posts NVS!

 

[Presser]

Most people dnt know anything about female nolvadex usage for losing lower body fat! so good bump up

 

[pgc640]

This is an irrelevant article. First she's using way too high a dose, second she's not using it for the correct reasons. I use noveldex with every single woman I've helped for 20+ year none had any problems.
The highest dose 10 MG a day not to loose body fat. To increase testosterone production by quite a bit for a female. To loose fat you diet, do csrdjo, use some thyroid. You don't take 40 mgs of noveldex a day. Do they just come up with this stuff or do people actually tell them to do it?

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