What do ya think about this cycle

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Preppy

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I know they are really strong but I got my hands on about 3 weeks of anadrol for free and I am wanting to start a new cycle in about a month or two.

I don't have a ton of cash and don't like the 3,4, 5, and so on different steroids in a cycle.

For some good gains would a simple cycle like this be ok. Or is there another drug that would work better with Anadrol?

Anadrol 25mg (half of a 50mg) weeks 1-3
Test Eneth 400mg weeks 1-10
Nolv 20mg ED as I am pretty prone to gyno
and Clomid post cycle
 
I am in my early 20's.

Basic stats are 5' 11 " ,189lbs ... 10-11%BF
Just ended a almost pointless 6 week 500mg/wk Sust cycle. Got about 8 lbs and have been off for about a week now.

So you say EQ. Just EQ with it ... no test?
 
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Anadrol 25mg (half of a 50mg) weeks 1-3
Test Eneth 400mg weeks 1-10
Nolv 20mg ED as I am pretty prone to gyno
and Clomid post cycle


Well u want to run ur EQ with ur tset Enath. Thats what i would do. run 500mg of test, and 400EQ. I see you have nolv and clomid which is a must. Get some EQ, and if you dont have Test get some of that too. Thats a good cycle.

Now what went wrong with ur sust cycle?
 
I was planning on running just 250mg/wk for 10 weeks and for some reason changed it. I know it take a couple to a few weeks for sust to fully kick in and results to be seen so just as soon as I started getting some size and strength I was on the last one.

Still got a some lbs and firmness so I am not too upset.
 
well how long ago did u do ur sust cycle?

I think that a test/eq cycle would go good, and the Anadrol would get things started right away
 
Sust cycle lasted about 6 weeks .......

OK ... so here is what you say would be good

Anadrol 25mg/ed weeks 1-3
Test Eneth 400-500mg weeks 1-10
Eq 400mg weeks 1-10

Sounds pretty hefty for me but worth a try ...... Thanks for the advice bro
 
Preppy said:
I am in my early 20's.

Basic stats are 5' 11 " ,189lbs ... 10-11%BF
Just ended a almost pointless 6 week 500mg/wk Sust cycle. Got about 8 lbs and have been off for about a week now.

So you say EQ. Just EQ with it ... no test?

How was your diet with this cycle? Did your strength improve?
 
6 weeks is short for a sust cycle. i started on sust and didn't even notice it kick in til week 4. at least 8 but 10 is better. i'm thinkin you didn't eat at least 4000 quality calories a day. i put on 10 lbs in 6 weeks just hardcore lifting without gear.
 
My diet was pretty solid. Not 4000 calories though. Roughly about 2500-2800. However I sit at a desk for 10 hours a day and cannot eat that much with out significant fat increase.
 
I agree with footballcat, Test, EQ, Anadrol would be a good cycle and keep your diet good, you should make some good gains.
 
You need to research AAS a little bit more bro.

I hope you're planning on taking at least 6-8 weeks off in-between these two cycles, right???

Get your diet in line first. 2500-2800 is barely maintainance calorie intake for a guy your size perhaps under. You'll need to eat AT LEAST 3.5k cal per day...you would gain a lot more muscle at 4-5k per day. Just make sure you're eating quality food high protein moderate carbs and fat. Also if you take some clen, liquidex, etc. during cycle it will keep bloat down as well as cut the fat a bit.

If you don't increase the calories and fix your diet be prepared to continue making 5-10lbs tops per cycle then losing about 1/2 to 3/4 of it when you come off. If you're going to invest the time and money into AAS you should at least do it right...I know I'm right...lol
 
I have read a bunch on AS and have a good basic knowlege.
I understand that sufficent calories are needed in order to maintaine much less grow. However I have tried the extremely high caloric diet while on AS and I put on a good deal of fat in little time. Now I am not a scientist or doctor by any means but I would believe that if I was putting on a lot of fat at 4000 calories a day then my body is telling me that I do not need that much.

Also I was doind a medium amount of Sust for a short while. If I would have continued to the full 10 weeks I would have probably got to about 15-20 lbs of solid muscle with little fat due to my understanding of my caloric intake needs.

Not all people are the same as you know. You may need 5K calories a day and someone else may need only 3K.

Thank you for the advise though.
 
Not saying I know more about your body than you do but you need at least 3500 calories per week in excess of your maintainance intake to gain 1lb of muscle.

Like I said before if you really concentrate on eating very clean and take some clen/eca/nyc's you can keep the fat down while you pack on the muscle.

What's your training routine look like? Also did you put in any cardio for the fat gain on your other cycles?

Some guys just have slow metabolism and gain fat easier...for those types they need to just add some thermogenics and a good amount of cardio to their routine. Have you tried any special diets?
 
No special diets yet. Tried the CKD for a week and it worked well. Funny but I just got my ECA in today and will be starting that soon.

Just a thought ... why add more drugs and more time in the gym to burn the fat when you could just reduce the calories and do the same? Ya know.

Never really add too much cardio during bulking. I know that fat will come but I try to keep it to a minimum because I am like a woman when it comes to seeing more fat! LOL

As for my training routine I am on a Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri with Wed, Sat, and Sun resting.
I do Legs on Mon ,,, Chest and Abs on Tues ,,, Back and Shoulders on Thursday ,,, and Arms on Friday ... Works pretty good ....

Thanks for your advise bro it is greatly appreciated.
 
Be prepared to gain 10-15lbs on Anadrol in the first 3 weeks,most of it being water you'll be hard pressed to hold on to all it.Stacking it with test is a start.Anadrol is as hard of an aas as it gets;very liver toxic!You should get a blood test before and after you do your cycle so you know what's happening inside you.Personally,i think deca and a testosterone and maybe d-bol would be far better and far safer.
 
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this is from Ultra150 @ anabolic-paradise.com

Eat To Grow

EAT TO GROW
What if I told you your success or failure in the gym has very little to do with what you do in the gym. You would probably look at me like I was crazy. Guess what, nutrition is by far the most important factor to making progress on any fitness program. Why have the so called "experts" made nutrition so confusing? I am going to attempt to take some of the confusion out of this subject and simplify things for you. First, lets start off by getting rid of the word "nutrition" and call it eating.

HOW MUCH SHOULD I BE EATING?

The first determination we need to make is how many calories should we be consuming each day? Unfortunately, everybody does not have the same caloric demands. Therefore, we must come up with a caloric figure to meet your specific demands. To determine what your caloric intake should be, simply take your current body weight and multiply by 12. The number you get will be the amount of calories you need to maintain your current weight (assuming you are training regularly). If you would like to gain weight, simply multiply your current body weight by a factor of 15. If you would like to lose some weight, simply multiply your body weight by a factor of 10. (Example: Maintenance, 200lb male X 12 = 2400 calories per day).

Remember, everybody has a different metabolism. Therefore, you may need to adjust these factors slightly to fit your specific demands. Basically, these figures serve as an ideal starting point to figure out what your personal caloric demands are.

HOW MANY GRAMS OF PROTEIN, CARBOHYDRATES AND FAT?

I am a strong proponent of the high protein, low carbohydrate and low fat way of eating. I even go as far as putting some of my clients on regimens consisting of 60% protein, 30% carbohydrate and 10% fat. For purposes of this article I will suggest that 50% of your calories come from protein, 30% from carbohydrates and 20% from fat. A gram of protein is equal to 4 calories and a gram of carbohydrate is also equal to 4 calories. Each gram of fat is equal to 9 calories. Now, take the above formula and figure out how many grams of protein, carbohydrates and protein you should be consuming each day. (Example: Maintenance, 200lb man requires 2400 calories, 300 grams of protein, 180 grams of carbohydrate, 53 grams of fat).

WHEN DO I EAT MY MEALS?

I suggest that you consume a meal every two and a half to three hours throughout the day. The easiest way to calculate when to eat your meals is to plan it out in advance. Therefore, write down what time it will be three hours from your first meal (breakfast) and then every three hours thereafter. Basically what I am saying is to eat when the clock tells you to, not when your stomach tells you. (Example: If you ate breakfast at 8:00 a.m., your next meals would be at 11:00 a.m., 2:00 p.m., 5:00p.m. and 8:00 p.m.). Attempt to eat each meal using the 50% protein, 30% carbohydrates and 20% fat breakdown. Also, if your caloric demand is roughly 2400 calories per day try to get in about 500 calories at each meal. Eating in this manner makes it very easy to stay disciplined.

WHAT ARE THE BEST THINGS TO EAT?

I guess this one depends upon what you like to eat. Remember, I am trying to make this eating concept easy for you. First, let me give you some examples of what protein, carbohydrates and fats are. Examples of good protein include: red meat, fish, chicken, turkey, milk, eggs and whey. Examples of carbohydrates include: rice, potatoes, breads, grains, fruits and vegetables. Examples of good fats include: flax seed oil, safflower oil, borage seed oil, fish oil, conjugated lineic acid and MCT oil. Obviously there are many more examples of the food groups I have mentioned, however, these are the most common.

Using the foods I have mentioned above in the right quantity would give you all you ever needed to succeed in the gym. The problem is preparing food during your busy day is not convenient. Therefore the solution is using meal replacement powders. These powders come in convenient packs, are easily mixed with water and the nutritional breakdown is great. There are many companies such as Met Rx, Myoplex, Perfect Rx and Rx Fuel which make decent meal replacement s. I highly recommend that you incorporate one of these products into your daily eating program. I suggest eating three regular food meals and two meal replacement s per day. If you are trying to lose weight you may want to eat three meal replacement s and two regular food meals. If you are trying to gain weight you may try eating three regular meals and three or even four meal replacement s.

MEAL SUGGESTIONS

The most common complaint about eating properly is not having enough time to prepare good meals. We have already discussed the convenience of meal replacement powders, so I will give you some dishes that are easy and enjoyable. I usually start my day off with a bowl of oatmeal mixed with egg whites, a scoop of whey protein powder, and a tablespoon of flaxseed oil. To spice it up I will add apple filling, cinnamon or equal packets. This recipe is quick, easy, tastes good and yields about 50 grams of protein (8 egg whites and one scoop of whey protein), 35 grams of carbs, 14 grams of fat (flaxseed oil) and roughly 500 calories. As you can see, this concoction fits exactly into my nutritional profile.

Another meal I eat frequently for lunch or dinner is a mixture of white rice, boiled egg whites and tuna (chicken may be substituted). I simply cook about 3 oz. of white rice and boil six eggs. I mix the rice together with six egg whites and one yolk. I then add in a can of white chunk tuna, flaxseed oil and some garlic powder (or your favorite spice). This recipe yields about 60 grams of protein, 30 grams of carbs, 15 grams of fat and roughly 500 calories.

THINGS TO AVOID WHEN EATING

NOT GETTING ENOUGH PROTEIN

Protein is essential in your quest to build quality muscle. The question is how much protein should you be consuming? A good rule of thumb is to consume 1.5 - 2 grams of protein per pound of bodyweight. The easiest way to get enough protein into your body is with a good whey protein supplement. In addition to your meals, mix two scoops of whey protein with some water. Also, try to mix up your protein sources throughout the day. For example, eat tuna at one meal, chicken at the next and eggs at the next meal. No matter what you do, consume at least your minimum protein requirement everyday.

NOT GETTING ENOUGH WATER

Try to sip on water constantly throughout the day. Water may be the most underrated piece of the bodybuilding puzzle. As we know, the body is made up of approximately 67% water. Water is desperately needed to cleanse the body and help to regenerate muscle cells. As a rule of thumb, try to consume at least one gallon of water per day.

NOT KEEPING A DAILY JOURNAL

The first thing I tell my bodybuilding clients is to write down everything that goes into their body. Writing down what you eat is the only way to analyze any changes that need to be made for future progress. It is very hard to make changes in your diet if you don't know what time you eat, what kind of protein you eat and how many grams of protein, carbs, fats and calories you are ingesting. The more detailed your log is, the easier it will be for you to go back and analyze it.

TOO MANY SIMPLE CARBOHYDRATES

Yes you need carbohydrates in your body. The question becomes are all carbs created equal. The answer is no. Without getting into too much detail, simple carbs cause a high insulin spike because they have a high glycemic index. This is usually not a good thing when trying to keep fat off of your body. Simple carbs are basically your sugars, sweets and fruits. Try to stick to carbs like potatoes, rice and vegetables. The best time to consume simple carbs is within two hours after training. During this period your muscles are very receptive to simple sugars.

NOT CONSUMING ENOUGH GOOD FAT

Yes, you read that correctly. Fat is not always the enemy. There is nothing wrong with consuming moderate amounts of fat in your diet. In fact, research has shown that fat is essential to growth, recovery, skin and connective tissue. A good rule of thumb is to stay away from hydrogenated oils, "shelf oils" and vegetable oils. These are the fats found in potato chips and snacks. Also, limit your saturated fat intake to that which is found naturally in the protein you eat. Finally, make sure you are getting a sufficient amount of essential fatty acids in your diet. Try to add a tablespoon of flaxseed oil to your protein shakes or meals.

DON'T WAIT ANOTHER MINUTE

What are you doing? You should be looking at the clock to see if it is time to eat again. As I stated earlier, eating is the key to your success or failure in the gym. Once you begin to gain more of an understanding of what your body's demands are, you will be able to customize a more intricate eating plan for yourself. For now, keep a detailed journal and watch your body change for the better
 
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