Long Term Steroid Use VS. Cycling

I will note that their are studies that show increased heart infarction events after heart surgery, with test therapy. So we need more studies with actual users. It is so hard to determine whats what when all the subjects are elderly or really beat up to begin with.
 
I would like to know if there are any conclusive evidence indicating AAS use on a autopsy? That 100% certain? I believe in certain cases AAS contribute to deaths, but not sole reason as many times there are other outside circumstances.

My good friend died back in 1993 at age 31....Dr told him due to a heart issue, dont smoke pot, dont do coke, drink in moderation and dont do AAS....he did all of them despite being not told, so no shocker there
 
The Survivor said:
I would like to know if there are any conclusive evidence indicating AAS use on a autopsy? That 100% certain? I believe in certain cases AAS contribute to deaths, but not sole reason as many times there are other outside circumstances.

My good friend died back in 1993 at age 31....Dr told him due to a heart issue, dont smoke pot, dont do coke, drink in moderation and dont do AAS....he did all of them despite being not told, so no shocker there
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I am sorry about your friend.

I am sure there was a point that he realized he could go at any time and that he should enjoy life. There is some thing to be learned from that.
 
I had a Dr prescribe for me back in the 80's, and he told me if you have prior medical issues, IE bad heart, even mental issues, do NOT take them. So I would hunch that many deaths related to AAS had pre-exisiting conditions

Thanks Dean for the kind words, my friend was a great lifter, we even competed in some AAU shows
 
Even without the extension of life bringing the quality up is a benefit. I could pass tomorrow from a heart attack and I am sure my wife and anyone else that knows would blame the test in my cabinet, but as a teenager and young adult I took alot of ephedrine, I could go days without eating when I took it, even though I have never had heart issues I would blame the ephedrine before I would AAS. I always dose at the low end until I learn more about it and so far so good.I am sorry to hear about your friend it is never a good thing.
 
I would like to know what Roelly Winkelaar's drug routine is. In the past year he has put on some massive size. His shoulders are the biggest I can ever recall seeing. I wonder if he has found a myostatin inhibitor? I have seen some of his training videos and he dosen't seem to train with heavy weights.

 
jimbosmith316 said:
Even without the extension of life bringing the quality up is a benefit. I could pass tomorrow from a heart attack and I am sure my wife and anyone else that knows would blame the test in my cabinet, but as a teenager and young adult I took alot of ephedrine, I could go days without eating when I took it, even though I have never had heart issues I would blame the ephedrine before I would AAS. I always dose at the low end until I learn more about it and so far so good.I am sorry to hear about your friend it is never a good thing.
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I am so glad you brought that up. I remember abusing ephedrine, and looking back I am wondering how I didn't do permanent damage.
 
Dean Destructo said:
I am so glad you brought that up. I remember abusing ephedrine, and looking back I am wondering how I didn't do permanent damage.
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I think alot of longevity in life is what we did when we did stupid shit when we were younger before we knew better.

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beachbody said:
I would like to know what Roelly Winkelaar's drug routine is. In the past year he has put on some massive size. His shoulders are the biggest I can ever recall seeing. I wonder if he has found a myostatin inhibitor? I have seen some of his training videos and he dosen't seem to train with heavy weights.

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I will check that out. I doubt it is a myostatin inhibitor though. He may have a natural gene deletion which would make him a mutant, lmao. I figure half of the top pros are mutants.
 
That was very informative problem is people are non believers til there in the doctors office for a chk up and they rush you to ER for heart surgery bc your about to die from all the gear I’ve seen it from a few good friends that were smart enough and lucky enough to survive but they will tell you how they posted once maybe in 5 yrs and stacking everything from A-Z daily on top of gh but great read thank you
 
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