peanutbarnes
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Question: Can you take HCG alone to raise T levels and if so would the T level raise high enough to have to take an aromatizer?
How to Run HCG during a steroid cycle and post cycle dosages
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Muscle mechanic
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It is a false signal and can and will create negive feed back!!!
Clomid can be used for that.
Hcg just to keep battery from losing charge completely when runningon gas.
Like an alternator that just keeps things from totally dying.
It can wake up something not working in long time but the things I mentioned and to verify if HTPA verification of working.
Those are my options on studies I read.
It's best use is during long cycle to keep truck in shed protect it some!!!
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The Survivor
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I got caught w my pants down recently, me and a buddy got ripped off leaving me to cold turkey, been off everything without PCT for 4 wks now, surprisingly have maintained almost everything except my desire to train hard, but will have gear coming in a wk or two.
The lesson here is have PCT on hand at all times, you never know when you will have to use it!
The lesson here is have PCT on hand at all times, you never know when you will have to use it!
nuknuk
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ok, i didnt read the article or all the comments, so Im just gonna throw in my two cents on HCG. I see no point to run it during a cycle, and would use it post cycle only. Basically, wait one week after your last dose/shot and then I would do two weeks of clomid, and then would do two weeks of HCG, and that will do it. Keep it simple guys.
Muscle mechanic
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It doesn't work that way, new studies confirmed it ups your test but is suppressive in its self so further evidence proved it only should be run with TRT to keep function or on cycle so u not completely shut down with testes not functioning at all.
Mean in cycle it's like oxygen mask helping them breathe
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Yeah, I posted those studies around here some place, and I was always against HCG during steroid cycle, and thought it was a waste of time. I preached that here for many many years, until reading the newest studies, and one article in particular and its pretty conclusive, that is by far most beneficial to take it alongside your steroid cycle and not just intermittent shots during post cycle.
Of course , many bodybuilders have taken it at the end during their post steroid cycle therapy and it worked well for them, but the articles and studies out now show conclusive evidence that taking HCG during steroid or hormone treatment / cycles will aid in your ability to bounce back naturally much much MUCH faster, and more importantly bounce back more COMPLETELY!
As when taking these hormones without being accompanied by H.C.G. and only using it at the end, your losing your ability to charge back up fully so to speak when it comes to natty testosterone and such.
Let me see, for the newbies, with whom im likely not explaining this to well for, and NukNuk, I know you understand what im saying right? if not and for the rest of the community it goes like this:
Battery @ 100% fresh and new, then starts a steroid cycle without running HCG with it, and only at the end, will only be able to charge back up maxed out at 75% of its initial capacity!
Battery @ 100% fresh and new, then starts a steroid/hormone cycle accompanies by HCG throughout cycle, at the end of cycle will be able to charge back up to damn Near 100%
Anyhow, we now a Have Testosterone Replacement Doctor Who has his own forum here for public and private questions, we should se what he thinks about this?
However, I am going by the recent studies , and if theyre true, and precise, and I have zero reason to believe otherwise, then yeah, I have changed my opinion on this issue, and Opinion I once held for many many years and felt strongly about.
Anyhow, great thread here!
Of course , many bodybuilders have taken it at the end during their post steroid cycle therapy and it worked well for them, but the articles and studies out now show conclusive evidence that taking HCG during steroid or hormone treatment / cycles will aid in your ability to bounce back naturally much much MUCH faster, and more importantly bounce back more COMPLETELY!
As when taking these hormones without being accompanied by H.C.G. and only using it at the end, your losing your ability to charge back up fully so to speak when it comes to natty testosterone and such.
Let me see, for the newbies, with whom im likely not explaining this to well for, and NukNuk, I know you understand what im saying right? if not and for the rest of the community it goes like this:
Battery @ 100% fresh and new, then starts a steroid cycle without running HCG with it, and only at the end, will only be able to charge back up maxed out at 75% of its initial capacity!
Battery @ 100% fresh and new, then starts a steroid/hormone cycle accompanies by HCG throughout cycle, at the end of cycle will be able to charge back up to damn Near 100%
Anyhow, we now a Have Testosterone Replacement Doctor Who has his own forum here for public and private questions, we should se what he thinks about this?
However, I am going by the recent studies , and if theyre true, and precise, and I have zero reason to believe otherwise, then yeah, I have changed my opinion on this issue, and Opinion I once held for many many years and felt strongly about.
Anyhow, great thread here!
Muscle mechanic
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It's your thread study I read myself and investigated myself and that's where I got my opinion too.
I now only recommend this approach
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See were both not nearly as pig headed and stubborn as they say, lmao,
great info. I am very new to this and didn't start here so I've seen a lot of information that doesn't match in other areas. Seems you guys have more info than my doctor. My question is this. I'm on test c. started out on a HCG by itself for a month or so. It was great at first but then the effects left at a couple weeks. This makes sense based on your info. I was then switched to Test Cyp. 100mg 2x/ week. I've been on this for 11 weeks now and I would like to stop. Do I need to do PCT for such a small dose? I have a new vial of HCG. I was told to stay on HCG 500iu daily during my test therapy. This seems like a lot of HCG based on what I've read. I stopped HCG a couple weeks ago after seeing another article.Thanks so much!
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Did you start a new thread asking this question? When asking at the end of larger postings new questions sometimes get overlooked.
I would say you should have stayed on the hcg during cypionate injections.
If you have not already done so, you should check out entourage hormones forum here. trtdoc is who runs it. he can steer you in the proper direction being TRT and hcg is his specialty
Dean Destructo
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The far superior protocol is to start HCG 2 weeks BEFORE AAS use and then continue throughout , up to PCT. The second most effective route is to wait until all AAS has left the body and then blast HCG. This is backed up by a few studies.
indeed it is brutha! It changed my way of thinking (the latest studies)
Great thread and useful information on HCG how to guide and dosage protocol
What is best to use with HCG post cycle, how long to continue HCG once cycle is over.
And I am really not understanding why we get so many questions regarding HCG with HRT or TRT, whats the point??
Great thread and useful information on HCG how to guide and dosage protocol
What is best to use with HCG post cycle, how long to continue HCG once cycle is over.
And I am really not understanding why we get so many questions regarding HCG with HRT or TRT, whats the point??
Takes some serious discipline to do things properly, and i would even guess no one starts HCG 2 weeks prior to their steroid cycle. But it sure would make Post Cycle Therapy Life a whole lot easier!
steelogrim
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This right here made me join the community. Whats up fellas!?
Can we elaborate a bit on this protocol of beginning 2 weeks prior or waiting until esters clear and blast prior to pct (dosage/reasoning)?
welcome, and happy to have you with us!
I think the jury had deliberated so to speak, and at very least HCG throughout cycle, the starting it 2 weeks prior to cycle, maybe dean can elaborate on more, but its pretty much the same principle goal in being able to recover closer to normal than otherwise would you without this protocol
steelogrim
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Thanks Presser!
Yeah, I am very interested in the reasoning for the 2 week pre load so to say.
To think, I thought I had it finally figured out after speaking to a few pros who are pretty big blood sticklers. This is what they advised:
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One week after last pin:[/FONT][FONT="]
Minor Cycle - 500-750mg (Perhaps 1kmg) Test E[/FONT]
[FONT="]HCG: week1 after last pin 1000ius EOD 8 days = 4,000ius[/FONT]
[FONT="] week 2 after last pin 500ius EOD 8 days = 2,000ius[/FONT]
[FONT="] take clomid 50/nolva 20 duration hcg[/FONT]
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[FONT="]Hard Cycle:[/FONT]
[FONT="]HCG: wk1 - 1kius ED for 5 days [/FONT]
[FONT="] 500iusED or 1kius EOD for remaining 10-12 days [/FONT]
[FONT="] Clomid 100/Nolva40 duration of hcg
My only concerns were low clomid and nolva dose, as well as a 16 day total pct.
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sorry man, ur post was moderated by our auto spam filter for some reason, and i didnt see it until right now, and approved it so now everyone can see it. Again sorry, this fucking filter moderating system needs to go lol.
as for the pro's and their take on it, im sure its vastly different than say guys just cycling a couple times a year on and off.
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