I love D-Bol. The ultimate performance enhancer. Have to watch for fakes though. If you don't pump then it is bunk is my motto.

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Can someone share their cycle stack when they’re using trestolone in it?

Also so would like to have some dosage and duration references for the guys who take higher tren dosages than testosterone when they stack the two together .

Im not one who would ever advocate for lowering your testosterone so that your tren ace would be higher milligrams than testosterone but I know plenty of you swear it’s just as beneficial with far less side effects so I’d like new guys to have a reference here

If I run my test even close to my tren I almost die lol. Exacerbates all the sides plus gyno! I have even ran a tren only cycle with way less sides than test plus tren.
 
Sheer Mass n Strength 12 week cycle

Dianabol 50mg daily
Nandrolone Decanoate 600mg per week
Testosterone cypionate 600mg per week

basic 2 injectable 1 oral steroid cycle stack. More of a throwback cycle of old days. I do not see to many people using cyp or deca anymore.
 
The number question asked in the entire fitness industry, how do I lose fat and add muscle mass at the same time. Answer is choose nearly any one of the mass muscle stacks listed above, and then diet and cardio properly.

If your fat or over weight, no steroid on earth will help more than a solid diet and cardio routine. Once you can start to see your abs, then we can talk about strategically choosing what hormones go best together.
 
INJECTABLES
Propionate 1-12 100mg daily
trenbolone acetate 4-12 50mg daily
igf-1 lr3 1-12 30microgram daily

ORALS
superdrol 1-3 10mg daily
winstrol 8-12 25mg daily
 
Steroids

Bulking steroids may indeed be the most commonly desired anabolic steroids on earth as piling on muscle is the primary concern for the majority of performance enhancers. Let’s be very clear, bulking steroids can include just about any anabolic androgenic steroid on earth, at least to a degree but there are specific anabolic steroids that are far more efficient at meeting this purpose. Further, you will also find some bulking steroids to be equally efficient in cutting cycles as their nature is extremely versatile in-terms of both bulking and cutting. When looking for the best bulking steroids there are a few things to keep in mind; first and foremost is understanding what to look for and while that may sound simple it’s not as simple as you might think. Once a good understanding is established it’s time to look at your personal goals, you might be a hardcore gym rat or competitive bodybuilder looking for mass upon mass, you may be an on the field athlete who just needs a slight off-season boost or you could fall somewhere in-between. In either case the same anabolic hormones will work for anyone, it will largely be food and total dosing that determines how much mass you gain as well as individual genetic response. For the individual who is just looking for a slight off-season boost this article may not be for him as he will be best served sticking with mild anabolic hormones such as Anavar and Primobolan; here we are focusing on the true bulking steroids.

What to Look For:


When it’s time to bulk it’s time to add size, this goes without saying but we do not simply want size we want quality size; again, perhaps this goes without saying. However, a common problem many run into is assuming increases in strength and weight gain are indicators of quality size and nothing could be further from the truth. Take for example the anabolic steroid Halotestin, there are few anabolic steroids on earth that will increase strength as dramatically and as quickly as Halotestin yet it will not add any size to your frame. Then take for example the numerous steroids that can cause you to hold excess water and if you’re already eating too much plus supplementing with these steroids that excess bloat while it will translate into excess gained pounds it will not translate into quality gains. Again, many of this may sound elementary but the truth is you can walk into any gym and in mere seconds see most do not understand this and more than likely you don’t either.

Here is a simple example of the problem we’re discussing above. Let’s say you’re supplementing with the best bulking steroids on earth and in mere weeks the scale goes up 20 or even 30lbs; with powerful orals such as Dianabol and Anadrol, with enough food this is not hard to do. Many see the scale go up and their strength assuredly does as well and you’ll hear boasting claims of “I just gained 20lbs of muscle!” We’re sorry to burst you bubble but no you didn’t; 20lbs of lean tissue is enormous and can take in many cases years for even a seasoned man to gain. When you choose your bulking steroids and as the weeks and months go by there is one thing and one thing only you need to go by and that is the mirror. How much weight you’ve gained is not a good indicator of success, how strong you’ve gotten is not a good indicator of success. The mirror and only the mirror, what it says in return is your only worthwhile indicator.

The Best Bulking Steroids:




When choosing quality bulking steroids you obviously want the best bulking steroids; the ones that will add quality mass in the most efficient and effective ways possible. Of course you’re going to want to remain safe and each anabolic steroid can carry with it its own various side-effects as well as level of probability in side-effects occurring and you are encouraged to seek out the specifics of each one. For a good bulking cycle most all men will find testosterone to be king; not only is it generally very well-tolerated in most all healthy adult men it is also by far the most efficient anabolic steroid of all time. It does not matter which form of testosterone you use; the hormone itself is the same within each and every form. For a good bulking cycle you are encouraged to always make testosterone your base and for many this will be the only steroid needed but of course some will want more. With that in mind we can confidently say the best bulking steroids of all time include:

While these are the best bulking steroids there are others that can be useful in an off-season period but the above will be the most effective. Steroids such as Equipoise and even Winstrol can to a degree be useful additions but for true bulking you’ll be best served by sticking to the above list.
 
[h=2]Oral Steroids -vs- Injectable steroids and muscle gains[/h]
Hi William:

I’ve been on and off steroids for years. I respond well to them even at pretty low doses (300-600mg/week), but always crash afterwards no matter what I do. Lately I’ve been trying something different. For the past 12 weeks I’ve been taking 100mg of orals (Winstrol, Dianabol, Anadrol) per week, and have slowly been gaining size (about 5 pounds of lean mass) and strength.

I am hoping this will produce more permanent gains; less estrogen conversion to worry about and it shouldn’t suppress my natural testosterone. Do you have any knowledge of the efficacy of low-dose long-term use of anabolics?


A: Given that most of the oral anabolics have less estrogenicity than the standard of reference (testosterone), you should find that size is better maintained at the conclusion of a cycle compared to injectable testosterones, as you are holding, and as a result will be excreting, less water weight. When all is said and done, you’ll seem to hold more of the weight you gained on oral anabolics simply because more of what you gained was quality muscle (not water bulk) in the first place.

Anadrol
is an exception among your list as it is highly estrogenic. Given the doses you are using, however, I suspect you will not notice this trait much, and (in line with what you stated) should be noticing some modest but measurable gains in strength and lean muscle mass. In the end you’ll probably gain more lean mass on a formidable dose of testosterone, but again, the difference between your on-cycle bulk weight and your off-cycle retained mass weight will be more noticeable on a cycle like this too.


If my math is correct, you are taking about 15 milligrams of oral anabolics per day. I don’t want you to be mistaken into thinking this is a “very low” dose. O.K., by some of the standards of excess today it may be considered low, but in a clinical sense it most certainly is not. Winstrol is given at a dose of 6 milligrams per day or less most commonly. WhenDianabol was widely prescribed in the U.S., the common application was 5 milligrams per day. Aside from Anadrol, the doses you are taking are outside of the therapeutic range, and enough to present significant gains in lean tissue, as you have noticed. In fact, during the 1960’s and ‘70s fifteen milligrams per day was a common dose for athletes and bodybuilders.

This level of use is also more than sufficient to suppress natural testosterone production, so you still going to have to deal with some type of crash at the conclusion of this cycle, even if it is less pronounced due to less water retention. As such, a proper PCT (Post-Cycle Therapy) program is probably a good idea to look at.


The main concern I have with this practice is the fact that you are applying a sufficient dose of c-17 alpha alkylated oral steroids each day, and it is continuing for a significant amount of time. The usual cutoff point is 6-8 weeks. Immediately, I would question what your serum lipids are doing. How are you HDL (good) and LDL (bad) cholesterol levels responding to this cycle? As you may know, oral c-17 alpha alkylated steroids present much more toxicity to the body than injectable testosterones (and related non-alkylated steroids).

They tend to greatly shift the HDL:LDL balance in an unfavorable direction (increasing the risk of cardiovascular disease), and place some strain on the liver. While I wouldn’t be go so far as to say this type of practice is outright dangerous to your immediate health, I would most certainly recommend that you take caution. With any oral cycle, especially one going on for a prolonged period of time, you should be getting periodic checks on your lipids, liver enzymes, blood pressure, and general markers of health. If you find the drugs are placing too much strain on your body, they probably aren’t worth it.

If you find such is true in your situation, you’d likely be much better off looking back at the old standby injectables liketestosterone and nandrolone, which present no significant liver stress and have a much lower negative effect on serum lipids – crash and water retention be damned.
 
Anabolic Steroid bulking cycle or cutting depending on your food consumption.


*Clomid therapy: 36 pills. 300mg day 1, 100mg next 10, 50mg final 10.



**HCG therapy is instituted for the prevention of testicular atrophy. The old practice was effective, but I feel prevention is more productive than trying to revert the problem late in the cycle.



Solid first cycle

Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ
OR
Week 1 to 10: 4-500mg of test
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*


Bulking Cycle # 1

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 12: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 6: 30mg of D-bol ED
Week 1 to 10: 600mg of EQ
Week 1 to 10: 750mg of Test
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*


Bulking Cycle # 2

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 12: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 5: 50mg of Anadrol ED
Week 1 to 6: 750mg of Test
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of Deca
Week 7 to 12: 75mg of Fina ED
Week 7 to 12: 100mg of Prop ED
Week 7 to 12: 50mg of Winny ED
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*


Cutting Cycle # 1

Week 1 to 8: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Prop ED
Week 1 to 8: 75mg of Fina ED
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of winny ED
Week 1 to 10: 50mg of proviron ED
Week 13 to 15: Clomid therapy*


Cutting Cycle # 2

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 12: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ
Week 1 to 8: 40mg of Oxandralone ED
Week 4 to 12: 50mg of Prop ED
Week 7 to 12: 50mg of Winny ED
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*


Lean Mass Cycle

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 12: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 12: 2ius of GH 5 on 2 off
Week 1 to 10: 500mg of Test
Week 1 to 12: 400mg of EQ
Week 7 to 12: 40mg of Oxanadralone
Week 14 to 16: Clomid Therapy*

Basic bridge

Week 1 to 8: 30mg of Oxandralone ED
Week 1 to 8: 10 grams of creatine and 20 grams of glutamine Ed


Experienced Bridge

Week 1 to 8: 10ius of Insulin post workout
Week 1 to 8: 10 grams of creatine and 20 grams of glutamine Ed
Week 1 to 8: 100grams of Dextrose 10 minutes after slin shot
Week 1 to 8: 150grams( 3 shakes) of WPI during active time of slin.


There are many different combination that we can all use in the Iron Game. I have only used a few. These are basic cycles that will work well for many users. I have only included

Deca in one cycle as I feel its negative effects on a HPTA are esaily avoided with the use of EQ. Some will say Fina will do the same thing, but because its ester works much faster, I believe it is not as suppressive as Deca.



Remember Diet is the key to all cycles. If you dont eat enough, you wont bulk, if you eat to much, you wont cut.
 
Anabolic Steroid bulking cycle or cutting depending on your food consumption.


*Clomid therapy: 36 pills. 300mg day 1, 100mg next 10, 50mg final 10.



**HCG therapy is instituted for the prevention of testicular atrophy. The old practice was effective, but I feel prevention is more productive than trying to revert the problem late in the cycle.



Solid first cycle

Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ
OR
Week 1 to 10: 4-500mg of test
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*


Bulking Cycle # 1

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 12: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 6: 30mg of D-bol ED
Week 1 to 10: 600mg of EQ
Week 1 to 10: 750mg of Test
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*


Bulking Cycle # 2

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 12: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 5: 50mg of Anadrol ED
Week 1 to 6: 750mg of Test
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of Deca
Week 7 to 12: 75mg of Fina ED
Week 7 to 12: 100mg of Prop ED
Week 7 to 12: 50mg of Winny ED
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*


Cutting Cycle # 1

Week 1 to 8: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of Prop ED
Week 1 to 8: 75mg of Fina ED
Week 1 to 8: 50mg of winny ED
Week 1 to 10: 50mg of proviron ED
Week 13 to 15: Clomid therapy*


Cutting Cycle # 2

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 12: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 10: 400mg of EQ
Week 1 to 8: 40mg of Oxandralone ED
Week 4 to 12: 50mg of Prop ED
Week 7 to 12: 50mg of Winny ED
Week 13 to 15: Clomid Therapy*


Lean Mass Cycle

Week 1 to 16: .5mg of arimidex EOD
Week 1 to 12: 300-500ius of HCG every 4th or 5th day**
Week 1 to 12: 2ius of GH 5 on 2 off
Week 1 to 10: 500mg of Test
Week 1 to 12: 400mg of EQ
Week 7 to 12: 40mg of Oxanadralone
Week 14 to 16: Clomid Therapy*

Basic bridge

Week 1 to 8: 30mg of Oxandralone ED
Week 1 to 8: 10 grams of creatine and 20 grams of glutamine Ed


Experienced Bridge

Week 1 to 8: 10ius of Insulin post workout
Week 1 to 8: 10 grams of creatine and 20 grams of glutamine Ed
Week 1 to 8: 100grams of Dextrose 10 minutes after slin shot
Week 1 to 8: 150grams( 3 shakes) of WPI during active time of slin.


There are many different combination that we can all use in the Iron Game. I have only used a few. These are basic cycles that will work well for many users. I have only included

Deca in one cycle as I feel its negative effects on a HPTA are esaily avoided with the use of EQ. Some will say Fina will do the same thing, but because its ester works much faster, I believe it is not as suppressive as Deca.



Remember Diet is the key to all cycles. If you dont eat enough, you wont bulk, if you eat to much, you wont cut.
Two things brother. Number one if we're talking about a lean bulking cycle let's not forget superdrol preferably injectable she do not get the side effects like appetite suppression and lethargy.

The other thing is the bridge. Cannot leave igf-1 lr3 out of that as it will cause you to retain most of the gains you made while on cycle. I know a lot of people like to add it to a cycle but I think it's better for a bridge because I would rather gain a little less and then also lose a little less when I'm off cycle. So I prefer igf-1 lr3 as a bridge. Obviously this is just my two cents probably isn't worth shit but figured I would put it up anyway.lol

Let's not forget most important after a bulking cycle. Increase your calorie intake like a MF and lift heavier weights for less reps. As you will burn more muscle faster while not on juice

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Anabolic Steroid Cycles for Gaining Muscle Mass and Cutting fat

Gaining mass, putting on the pounds (bulking):
Testosterone is the base of our cycles. A beginner doesnt need much to see great gains. Over the last couple years on the internet, the beginner dosage has slowly increased. Once upon a time, 250mgs of testosterone a week was enough to see very good strength and muscle gains. However, today, many people will say a dosage of 500mgs a week, is the very minimal. This is not true, this is being suggested under the thinking, more is better, which is false.

A successful first cycle (assuming the diet is in check), would be 250mgs of testosterone, every 5 days. Possible testosterones for this cycle would be Sustanon (a testosterone blend), Testosterone Enanthate, or Testosterone Cypionate. These testosterones have a slow acting ester, which means they do not have to be injected frequently. With a slow acting testosterone, a user will begin to see results at approximately the 3-4 week mark. If the user has proper diet and training, a 10-20lb size increase can be expected. Other positive side effects will include increased energy, sex drive, strength, and a sense of well being.


At this dose, negative side effects should not be present. Depending on the diet there may be some water retention. Taking testosterone propionate, which should be injected every second day (minimal), would decrease the water bloat, but many people do not like frequent injections.
For added boost, or possibly for a second cycle, a user can add Equipoise (Boldenone Undecyclate) with the testosterone. Equipoise is a popular veterinary steroid, which can be used for adding mass, or while dieting. Equipoise will give a slow, steady increase in mass and strength. Another plus to equipoise is that it increase appetite, which makes it more appropriate for bulking than cutting. 150mgs every three says will yield impressive results. Equipoise is a rather safe steroids, with no major side effects. It has been my many users at 800-1000mgs a week without any noticeable side effects.
A total steroid cycle should last 8-10 weeks. This is a beginner recommendation. Some suggest doing short 2-3 week cycles, on and off, while others will suggest doing 16-20 week cycles. We believe beginners should start at the basic 8-10 week cycles.

Getting more definition, better looking physique and losing weight... (cutting):

Surprisingly, the same above steroids can be taken to lose weight, and will work effectively. Steroids arent magic, they arent going to help you lose weight. They will help you maintain your muscle, while you are dieting, and give your muscles the full look, but they dont burn fat. Testosterone Suspension or Propionate are better choices than Enanthate and Cypionate, as you wont hold as much water. The Suspenion or Propionate can be taken 50mgs everyday. They are fast acting, and you should see a lot quicker results compared to the slower acting testosterones. Although equipoise increases appetite is also great for that veiny or vascular look. Winstrol (Stanozolol) is another option, but there is the chance of increased negative side effects. There is a chance of hair thinning, acne and liver toxicity but it all depends on how the users body reacts to the drug, and if they are taking anything to minimize the side effects. Winstrol can be injected at 50mgs every other day, or taken orally at 30-50mgs a day, (30mgs/day suggested) with the dosages being split up through out the day. A non-steroid drug, Clenbuterol, can be used to aid fat loss. Clenbuterol is a bronchodilator, used in treatment for asthma. It is slightly thermogenic, and increases the bodys temperature, which in turn, increase the bodys fat loss capabilities.
Other steroids
There are a few other steroids that are also for beginners; with very little side effects. You have:

Deca Durabolin (Nandrolone Decanoate)
Anavar (Oxandrolone)
Primobolan
The only problem with the above three is the price, it can get quite expensive. Deca Durabolin can take the place of equipoise in the above bulking cycle, but we wouldnt recommend it in the cutting cycle. Users can hold water with Deca, and you just wont get the same look and feel, as you will with equipoise. Anavar is a great overall drug, but is probably the most expensive steroid available. It is known as the safest steroid, side effects are extremely rare. It yields slow steady gains, and can be used while bulking or cutting. Primobolan, similar to Anavar, it will give slow, steady gains, with very little side effects. Primobolan and Deca are injectables, while Anavar is an oral steroid. Several years ago, Primobolan and Deca Durabolin were two of the top steroids on the market. Because of research on other drugs, availability, and changing in prices, they arent used quite as often anymore.
 
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