Help HCG injected by intramuscular?
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Who says it's supposed to be administered subQ?
Because that's certainly not the case with the vast majority of hcg out there. And it's obviously not recommended by the manufacturer. Read your insert.
Dosage and Administration from AHFSDI*
Reconstitution and Administration:
Chorionic gonadotropin (CG) is administered only by IM injection.Chorionic gonadotropin powder for injection is reconstituted with the diluent provided according to the manufacturer’s directions.
( *the AHFS DI is the American Hospital Formulary Service Drug Information, which is a Drug Information Reference from the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists.)
There is only one type of hcg, a recombinant hCG that is made by serono which is supposed to be injected subQ. However, in BB circles, this product is fairly rare. Whoever is using hcg subQ is not hurting themselves but is not providing any benefit either. This talk of better absorption or whatever with subQ is a fairy tale, if anything, the reverse is true. When you start using products in a manner different that the manufacturer recommends and different than how all the studies have used the product, you probably shouldn't expect as good a result.
MaxRep
Because that's certainly not the case with the vast majority of hcg out there. And it's obviously not recommended by the manufacturer. Read your insert.
Dosage and Administration from AHFSDI*
Reconstitution and Administration:
Chorionic gonadotropin (CG) is administered only by IM injection.Chorionic gonadotropin powder for injection is reconstituted with the diluent provided according to the manufacturer’s directions.
( *the AHFS DI is the American Hospital Formulary Service Drug Information, which is a Drug Information Reference from the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists.)
There is only one type of hcg, a recombinant hCG that is made by serono which is supposed to be injected subQ. However, in BB circles, this product is fairly rare. Whoever is using hcg subQ is not hurting themselves but is not providing any benefit either. This talk of better absorption or whatever with subQ is a fairy tale, if anything, the reverse is true. When you start using products in a manner different that the manufacturer recommends and different than how all the studies have used the product, you probably shouldn't expect as good a result.
MaxRep
IM muscular injections of fast acting water based products such as GH, Slin, Hcg, Vit B-12, etc have an absorption rate of 57% verses Sub-Q which is 69%.
That would conclude IM would take longer to be fully absorbed, which would change the shape of the peak by lowering and extending it.
I read that in my PDR last night. Thought Id share. I would have suspected IM to be absorbed faster than SubQ.
That would conclude IM would take longer to be fully absorbed, which would change the shape of the peak by lowering and extending it.
I read that in my PDR last night. Thought Id share. I would have suspected IM to be absorbed faster than SubQ.
sub-q peaks much faster.
How to do a subQ inj:
Select your injection site. This must be an area that has a layer of fat between the skin and the muscle. This is called subcutaneous. The following parts of your body have subcutaneous layers:
* outer surface of the upper arm
* top of thighs
* buttocks
* abdomen, except the navel or waistline
1. If you are very thin do not use the abdomen as an injection site.
2. Do not use the same site for injections each time.
3. Rotate your injection sites in a regular pattern. You should be at least 1 ½ inches away from the last injection site. Jot down on your calendar where you gave you last shot. This will help prevent giving the shot in the same place too soon.
4. Select a site and cleanse the area (about 2 inches) with a fresh alcohol pad, or cotton ball soaked in alcohol.
5. Wait for the site to dry.
6. Remove the needle cap.
7. Pinch a 2?inch fold of skin between your thumb and index finger.
8. Hold the syringe the way you would a pencil or dart. Insert the needle at a 45 to 90 degree angle to the pinched?up skin. The needle should be completely covered by skin. If you do this quickly, you will feel very little discomfort.
9. Hold the syringe with one hand. With the other, pull back the plunger to check for blood. If you see blood in the solution in the syringe, do not inject. Withdraw the needle and start again at a new site.
10. If you do not see blood, slowly push the plunger to inject the medication. Press the plunger all the way down.
11. Remove the needle from the skin and gently hold an alcohol pad on the injection site. Do not rub.
12. If there is bleeding, apply a bandage.
13. Immediately put the syringe and needle into the disposal container*.
How to do a subQ inj:
Select your injection site. This must be an area that has a layer of fat between the skin and the muscle. This is called subcutaneous. The following parts of your body have subcutaneous layers:
* outer surface of the upper arm
* top of thighs
* buttocks
* abdomen, except the navel or waistline
1. If you are very thin do not use the abdomen as an injection site.
2. Do not use the same site for injections each time.
3. Rotate your injection sites in a regular pattern. You should be at least 1 ½ inches away from the last injection site. Jot down on your calendar where you gave you last shot. This will help prevent giving the shot in the same place too soon.
4. Select a site and cleanse the area (about 2 inches) with a fresh alcohol pad, or cotton ball soaked in alcohol.
5. Wait for the site to dry.
6. Remove the needle cap.
7. Pinch a 2?inch fold of skin between your thumb and index finger.
8. Hold the syringe the way you would a pencil or dart. Insert the needle at a 45 to 90 degree angle to the pinched?up skin. The needle should be completely covered by skin. If you do this quickly, you will feel very little discomfort.
9. Hold the syringe with one hand. With the other, pull back the plunger to check for blood. If you see blood in the solution in the syringe, do not inject. Withdraw the needle and start again at a new site.
10. If you do not see blood, slowly push the plunger to inject the medication. Press the plunger all the way down.
11. Remove the needle from the skin and gently hold an alcohol pad on the injection site. Do not rub.
12. If there is bleeding, apply a bandage.
13. Immediately put the syringe and needle into the disposal container*.
DG, sorry but I really think you need to do some more research on this matter. Your PDR info is a gross generalization. Did you by any chance specifically look up HCG?
1. I really doubt the manufacturers of HCG would recommend IM injections if subQ were better.
2. Although I already know this, this evening I double checked with a Dr. friend of mine who's an ER Dr.
I asked him if a patient comes in who is a diabetic, and is hyper or in shock or whatever and needs insulin, how do they administer the insulin?
He said "IM".
I said "why not subQ, after all isn't that the recommended way to take insulin?"
He said "because subQ is only used for normal circumstances when a slow absorbtion rate is desired. IM is used for diabetics in emergencies when a much faster absorbtion rate is needed."
I then asked him why IM is faster and
he said "because muscle has a much greater capillary system than fat and therefore the insulin is taken up much faster".
I next asked him if this applies to other injected, water based products and he said of course the same principles apply.
So unless you have some sort of scientific literature to back up what you're saying...??? However, as I said earlier, I'm sure there's no harm in taking it subQ even though that's not the method the manufacturers recommend.
Straight from Serono's (Profasi) literature:
Profasi: A prescription medication that causes ovulation. It contains human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) which causes the release of an egg from the ovary. Profasi is administered intramuscularly (deep within the muscle tissue). Profasi may also be used to enhance the production of testosterone and increase sperm production in men.
Best regards,
MaxRep
1. I really doubt the manufacturers of HCG would recommend IM injections if subQ were better.
2. Although I already know this, this evening I double checked with a Dr. friend of mine who's an ER Dr.
I asked him if a patient comes in who is a diabetic, and is hyper or in shock or whatever and needs insulin, how do they administer the insulin?
He said "IM".
I said "why not subQ, after all isn't that the recommended way to take insulin?"
He said "because subQ is only used for normal circumstances when a slow absorbtion rate is desired. IM is used for diabetics in emergencies when a much faster absorbtion rate is needed."
I then asked him why IM is faster and
he said "because muscle has a much greater capillary system than fat and therefore the insulin is taken up much faster".
I next asked him if this applies to other injected, water based products and he said of course the same principles apply.
So unless you have some sort of scientific literature to back up what you're saying...??? However, as I said earlier, I'm sure there's no harm in taking it subQ even though that's not the method the manufacturers recommend.
Straight from Serono's (Profasi) literature:
Profasi: A prescription medication that causes ovulation. It contains human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG) which causes the release of an egg from the ovary. Profasi is administered intramuscularly (deep within the muscle tissue). Profasi may also be used to enhance the production of testosterone and increase sperm production in men.
Best regards,
MaxRep
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properly pumped
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when in doubt, look at the package insert. i took HCG for the first time, and did it IM. that's what the directions specified. it didn't say "subcutaneously". there were a few people on this site who said to do it sub-q, but after looking at my insulin syringe, i would have to fill the whole syringe up twice to get the amount i wanted. i opted to follow the instructions. good luck.
alpineslide
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856brutus said:
You can't argue with success.
BLEED GREEN
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Always used it IM-Works just as advertised!
BLEED GREEN
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