Anavar dosing

I've been told that any amount of any AAS will effect nat hormone level somewhat, but I was wondering if using anavar as a bridge, at what point (mgs) does this happen to the extent that its counter productive to a bridge....mean what is the highest dose you guys would ever bridge with?

i have read that as little as 15mgs can cause htpa suppression....i will try and find the study..

here it is

http://jcem.endojournals.org/cgi/content/full/84/8/2705

Short-Term Oxandrolone Administration Stimulates Net Muscle Protein Synthesis in Young Men1
Melinda Sheffield-Moore, Randall J. Urban, Steven E. Wolf, J. Jiang, Don H. Catlin, David N. Herndon, Robert R. Wolfe and Arny A. Ferrando
Departments of Surgery (M.S.-M., S.E.W., D.N.H., R.R.W., A.A.F.), Anesthesiology (R.R.W.), and Internal Medicine (R.J.U., J.J.), University of Texas Medical Branch, and Shriners Burn Hospital for Children (D.N.H., R.R.W.), Galveston, Texas 77550; and the Department of Molecular and Medical Pharmacology, University of California, Olympic Analytical Laboratory (D.H.C.), Los Angeles, California 90025
...Total serum T concentrations were within normal physiological range on day 0 (449 ± 35 ng/dL) and day 3 (441 ± 44 ng/dL) of OX treatment. However, by day 5, total serum T concentrations were significantly reduced (282 ± 45 ng/dL; P < 0.05) below day 0 and day 3 values (Fig. 3)...Figure 3. Total androgen concentration. Total serum T (hatched portion) and OX (black portion) concentrations in five young men on days 0, 3, and 5. *, T decreased significantly from days 0 and 3 to day 5 (P < 0.05).

Nice IP I been wanting to see that!

irishpride, good info. Ive heard that anavar barely shut you down even at higher doses. So I was thinking that a newbie could run 4 week cycles of anavar with a couple weeks off inbetween, you would make mild gains but without any estrogen water retention and very little hpta shut down you would keep almost all your gains. But this study proves that theory wrong.

Cordoba said:

irishpride, good info. Ive heard that anavar barely shut you down even at higher doses. So I was thinking that a newbie could run 4 week cycles of anavar with a couple weeks off inbetween, you would make mild gains but without any estrogen water retention and very little hpta shut down you would keep almost all your gains. But this study proves that theory wrong.

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yeah i thought the same as you..i am runnin 40mg of var ED now and some test eth at 600mgs EW,i will let you know the severity of the surpression at the end..i may even nix the test and just run the var to see the results but i need to cut more so i may keep the test..anyway i will let you know,this in regards to most BB cycles is mild...

I've just started an anavar only cycle, which I have never done an oral only cycle, but i'm only 2 days into it, it will be a good test to see how much of my natural testosterone is suppressed and how fast..

Keep me updated on how much the var shuts you down. I am going to come off AAS for a while once my current cycle is done. But I was planning on doing a cycle of IGF-1, PGF2a, and kynoselen....if the var barely shuts you down I might throw that in at 10mg ed for good measure. But your article dosent make it look as good anymore.

Well, I'm only 5 days into it, so far there has been some shut down, I generally judge shutdown by sexual performance..the semen is more clear now and less of it, but I'm having no problems achieving an erection or maintain it, there is a little less desire to have sex, but I still enjoy it, last time I did a cycle I ran anavar with sustanon, and with the sustanon I was shut down so much that after 48 hours I would need another 250shot otherwise I couldn't have sex..

i have read that 10mgs of dbol in the am is the best bridge...let me find some info

here is a post made by a very knowledgeable bro HHH from ugffl

"I've been reading some of the posts regarding this bridge and some of them are truly from left-field.
First of, this is a BRIDGE. OK? a B-R-I-D-G-E.

Your LH function and Test levels are supposed to RECOVER.

Ok, now having said that.
Here's the pharmo-kinetics behind Methandrostenelone, brand name Dianabol.

10mg taken at once will increase your average testosterone level by 5 times and decrease your endogeneous cosrtisone
by 50-70%.

The reason why dianabol is a good choice for a bridge is that its VERY anti-catabolic. It also dopaminergic. Giving you the benefits of increased CNS strength modulation by its androgenic mode of action. Androgens, in case you don't know, increase neuro-muscular function, thus STRENGTH.

OK. Now, lets delve into the metabolic chemistry behind dianabol's choice as a bridging agent.

When are testosterone levels highest? Answer: In the AM, thats when.

Your body releases a tesosterone spike in the morning. This is when tesosterone levels are highest.

When are Insulin levels lowest? Answer: In the AM thats when.

Low insulin levels=increased protein used as fuel. (Also fat, but protein is also being converted to glucose via glucogenesis)

OK, here is where dball's short half-life works for us (Its 3.2-4.5 hrs btw)
Lets take Subject X.

He's in bridging mode. He has just woken up. The body is about to release tesosterone, thus creating a spike.
His insulin levels are low. His LH and test levels are very low.

He pops 10mgs of dianabol. Here is where things get interesting. The 10mgs of dianabol will cause a testosterone
spike WHICH COINCIDES WITH the testosterone released ENDOGENEOUSLY in the AM by the testes.

The body will be partially fooled. It will not entirely detect the increased levels of testosterone (above the normal test sipke), thus LH function WILL REMAIN only partially(Very little actually) suppressed.

In other words, he is "piggy-backing" an extra dose of testosterone on top of the endogeneously reduced one,
thus creating an "inflated" test spike.

Henceforth, LH levels WILL BE ALLOWED TO SLOWLY RECOVER over time. Also, dballs anti-catabolic effect will help curb protein-loss in the morning from low insulogenic levels. HOWEVER, and here is where almost all of you go wrong. You CANNOT GO PAST 10mg of dianabol in the AM
for this bridge to work!!!! Why? Because of the blood levels of dianabol you would generate.

10mg in the AM will be broken down to 5mg in about 4 hrs (Probably less) 5mg of dianabol, is not enough to cause another rise in testosterone levels after the precceeding one. Thus, LH function is allowed to up-regulate.

Anything more(Say 20mgs), will cause a SEDCONDARY testosterone spike which WILL inhibit LH function further, thus not allowing LH function to recover. Oh yeah...100mgs? ROTLMFAO!! Fat chance.
The difference between 20mgs and 10mgs means the difference between allowing LH to recover slowly and not allowing it to.

So, here's the scenario summed up: Beginning: LOW LH and test. Adding the 10mgs dball.

LH is allowed to SLOWLY RECOVER over time as testosterone levels are kept at a level which will not cause muscle-loss. Also, dball's anti-catabolic effects will reduce protein degradation.(Via cortisone reduction)

This is what i call a double positive. You have managed to INCREASE anabolism(Test levels) and DECREASE
catabolism(cortisone), during a bridge to boot!!

The bridge should last 8 weeks, NO LESS. I also have to say, that it WILL NOT restore complete LH function. It'll get you 80-90% of the way there but the only way you're going to get your full LH function back is if you go OFF
completely. Anavar WILL NOT restore LH completely either btw.
(In case anybody is wondering.)
The difference is that with anavar you can take it throughout the day and with dball it HAS TO BE

Layman's terms?

Var

Ive been fine with Anavar at 60mg a day at 10 weeks....... tired and sleepy at times but other than that...Sexual production good, work outs great and pumps and very good growth rate with high quality gains. Week after all cycles, the HCG, Clomid come into effect then its time to get blood work done.

IP....I hate d-bol.....do you think winny or anavar in the AM at a low dosage would work?

i need to get myself some Anavar as well because like Cordoba I don't like DBol and Winny has been drying the hell out of my joints.

So will Var do something similiar?

i tried a dbol bridge.......wont do it again though.I only ran 10mg,and before i hit the 2 week mark my nuts had shrunk a little and i was visibly holding water again.Im sensitive to dbol anyway so i suppose theres others who`ll say otherwise.

Winny????cant see that being a good idea tbh.

What id REALLY like to see is someone with some credibility running some t-bol or furazabol instead.i think one of these might be worth it ..Sides vs results.

i am thinking of runnin just a var bridge with possible hgh and igf too...i dont have that much time off between but i am thinkin of doing this for research purposes LOL