Deca or EQ?

I will be running a cycle with Test Cyp/Prop mix, Tren Ace and Winny. Im still on the fence whether to use EQ or Deca. I have 3 cycles under my belt and I have used EQ before but never Deca. I have also used all those other AAS before. The gains with EQ that I got I was unsure of because I was using tren, test and EQ together for 12 weeks...well, the tren for 6 wks. I hear that Deca is far superior in giving strength and mass gains. But what about when you come off? Is it like some "quick fix" steroids where a lot of the gains will go away even with a good PCT? I know there is a bit of water retention, but how would the keepable gains be in comparison to EQ where you keep most of the gains but they aren't as great to begin to with. Basically I want to know which one will give me the better results in lean muscle mass when all is said and done (after coming off, PCT done and being clean for a while)

And no, taking both is sadly not an option

i'd try deca this time if i were you. since you've never used it before i think it'd be good to know how you react to it.

Some consider mixing Deca and Tren a no no because they both convert to progesterone, and it increases your chance of getting gyno.

i like deca and eq together at 200mg each a week, its a great combo and dont buy into that whole thing that u cant take em together as they do not share the same receptor site so ur not wasting them when taking together , trust me they ock together

Cordoba said:

Some consider mixing Deca and Tren a no no because they both convert to progesterone, and it increases your chance of getting gyno.

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bump. I would go eq. What where your previous doses? mg for mg deca will give better gains, but IMO the gains are more water and not that solid. Eq gives slower, leaner gains that are more easily maintained. I would pefer 600 eq to 400 deca any day.

The first time I used EQ was this past cycle @ 400mg/wk

Yea, that progesterone induced gyno is one thing I am somewhat scared about because I started getting symptoms from the tren alone running it this past time....so I guess EQ it is!

If I were to run Deca with tren, how much down time would I need before I could take tren ace after taking Deca?

I forget the exact half life, but its like 17-19days I think, so probably 3-4 wks

Hm, do you feel I would get better results from running them together cycle after cycle? I only do one cycle a year that runs 22 weeks. Or would I find better results from running Deca and Tren every other cycle but for longer. People talk about the "Law of Diminishing Results"...AKA steroids become less and less effective the longer/more experience you get with them.

I'd say run them both, if $$$ isnt an issue, if so then really just depends on what your looking to achive, if you in for more size and strength go with the deca, but water retention with be increased, if wanting quality gains then go with EQ, however i dont personally think EQ should be ran for less than 12 weeks, just from my personal experience, ( oh another thing, EQ usually helps with appitite, not sure ifs its a problem with you but some loose appitite while on test ect.. and EQ seems to remedy that

is there any bad probs with eq. (sides)

well it makes some want to eat hay and jump fences.......

No really, sides on EQ are very mild to none in my opinion, atleast for me, though i have never ran over 600mgs a week,
see EQ is mainly a powerful anabolic, but not much on the androgenic side. so its really good for lean quality gains. but thats what i love about it. ya dont have to worry about water retention and thats a big plus to me cause i puff up easily.

What do you guys think about the whole "Law of Diminishing Results" theory I stated in my previous post? Would it be better to run it like this way to help keep my body from adapting?

Cycle #1
Test Cyp/Prop mix
Dbol
EQ
Tren

Cycle #2
Test Cyp/Prop mix
EQ
Deca
Winny

Cycle the cycles 1/2/1/2 etc. Will throw in IGF-1 in there too...probably towards the beginning. PCT with consist of Nolva, Clomid, Slin, Creatine, Glutamine, Clen, lots of food and protein, and possibly Masteron (not sure about this one). Will be running HCG during the cycle to help me rebound faster as well.