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I'm a big dex fan, but it ain't cutting this cycle. 1g test 600eg and 40 bol. 2wks in and sore nips. Started 10 mg nolv ed two days ago. I've never run nolv with a cycle due to the efeect it can have on your gains, but now I don't have a choice. Is 10mg ED enough?
 
No--- you need least 20mg of nolva.
Also from years of using, I have found that it really does not hinder gains all that much. The positives outweight the negs...
 
Alright, I'll up it to 20 I'm not tried to get rid of gyno, just preventitive, really suprised teh dex wasn't enough.
 
Hate to run on your thread brew: but...

same question on same typ of cycle- 12 weeks so far... except no gyno inhibitors. Its my first cycle in 10+ years....so I figured Id be safe.

My nips are getting bad... poking through my sweater today... and its warm out, very sensitive... But, im going off next week. next cycle I will use some novla

Im going to be using clomid soon... My source said not to worry cause clomid will clear up what BT i have.

Will clomid help- or is he full of crap???
 
Clomid does have weak anti-e properties, but I wouldn't chance it, get some nolv. If your nips are just getting sore, chances are the development of breast tissue is soon to follow. Run it for the rest of your cycle, hell even use it instead of clomid post cycle.
 
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Brew, If dex isnt cutting it nolva may not help because it is so weak anyway, go get some aromasin and if that doesnt work then you are taking plain old too much shit for your body. or drop the dbol and it will go away fast. I'll bet you thats whats causing it and its got a short halflife so if u cut it out for a week i'll bet your soreness will leave with just the dex.
 
AZ bro I love the avatar. I've been on nolv for 5-6 days now, running it with 1 ml dex and the combo seems to be more effective. isn't getting worse, seems less tender. The always get slightly puffy and slightly sore even with dex. I will try femera next, but I got grams of nolv sitting around, gonna use it up for now. thanks for all the responses.
 
are their any anit-e's that can reverse the effects of the breast tissue.....like if you have already got gyno lumps......i think the only answer is surgery
 
mmx2 said:
No--- you need least 20mg of nolva.
Also from years of using, I have found that it really does not hinder gains all that much. The positives outweight the negs...
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That is exactly correct, If 20mg dont work bump it up to 40 and you should see some results.
 
Bignick said:
are their any anit-e's that can reverse the effects of the breast tissue.....like if you have already got gyno lumps......i think the only answer is surgery
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Yes, nolv at 60 ED reduced my lump to bb size. I had a friend who used a topical cream they give to aids patients for gyno since they pump them full of aas to prevent wasting. He had surgey, but the didn't get it all, he said he still had noticable lumps that the cream took away pefectly. Draw back was it took two tubes, with each tube running about 225 or so. I can't think of the name, maybe some one else heard of this, its a shame I lost contact with the guy a while ago or I'd get the name for ya.
 
I ran nolva at 40 mg a day for like 3 weeks and 20 for 3 and they continued to get bigger.......i didn't understand it.....i dont think it was bunk (from CNW) I don't want to go shutting down my thyroid so am i stuck with these bad boys.......cause another anti-e cycle wouldn't be good would it?
 
Nope, you should look into that cream damn i wish I could remember the name, I bet your doc would know. He probably won't give you a script, but once you know what it is get it at an online pharm.
 
CNW? was it liquid? Remeber most liquids are underdosed about 1/3 due to the citrate binder.
 
yeah it was liquid.....so damn i didn't know they were under dosed that bad!!! So it really is that much underdosed....and whats this cream you talk of? I haven't even heard of it, is it for ridding gyno development or disolving it i guess you could say?

thanks brew
 
Bro I can't remember the name, but it is a topical cream teh give to aids patients who are on compounds to prevent muscle wasting. It starts with an "A" if thats any help, lol.

Cyhpon explained this a little while ago. The liquid nolv is usually sold as 20mg/ml tamoxifien citrate. The actuall composition of the pill is 30mg of tomaxifien citrate, but sold as 20 mg of tamoxifien (nolvadex). So that then makes the liquid about 14 mg/ml when you take out the mgs occupied by the binder. So lets say you are taking 2 ml of the liquid to equal 40 mg. You are actually getting slightly less then 30 mg of real nolv, or abut 1 1/2 of the pills. Hope this made sense, I'm begiining to confuse myself, lol.
 
yeah makes perfect sense...thanks bro....I will have to check out the cream for sure, maybe thats why the nolvadex dosage wasn't working like i thought it should.

Is that your dog in the avatar? Got one just like it? Coon hunting summa bitches!!!!!
 
Yeah, thats my runt. He stands about 9inches high and weights 13lbs. thinks he's a cat, good entertainment.
 
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