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    Default Do you guys really feel the need for liver protectants?

    Just wondering.......... I never have a problem with my liver enzymes.............. they only get a little high...........
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    yes, you arent getting your liver checked everyday, whats to say the day after a test your levels go crazy, its too late then cause you decided to play M.D., IMO
     

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    Dude, liver enzymes change slow........ and I have never heard of anyone having liver problems..........

    Dont know of One pro bodybuilder with liver probs..........

    they give sick people with blood disorders 5-6 anadrols a day for as long as 30 years before signs of reversable liver damage ever occur............

    Im not discouraging protecting your liver or taking care of it....I just think the suggestion that AS are harmfull to your liver has been blown way out of proportion..........almost all serious sides come from Diruretics (kidneys), or Slin(hypo), or gaining too much weight to quick after a contest (heart attacks).........
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    flex wheeler bro, and if you give me 10 minutes i will have 10 more pro's and a handfull of amatuers, i think st. cloud had liver failure once also
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    Originally posted by BEEFY
    Dude, liver enzymes change slow........ and I have never heard of anyone having liver problems..........

    Dont know of One pro bodybuilder with liver probs..........

    they give sick people with blood disorders 5-6 anadrols a day for as long as 30 years before signs of reversable liver damage ever occur............

    Im not discouraging protecting your liver or taking care of it....I just think the suggestion that AS are harmfull to your liver has been blown way out of proportion..........almost all serious sides come from Diruretics (kidneys), or Slin(hypo), or gaining too much weight to quick after a contest (heart attacks).........
    you need to read more cause youre sounding very immature, just cause you havent "heard" of it doesnt mean its not harmful
     

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    Yes, liver protectants are VERY important for when ur on and when your off. When ur off they will help your body digest the large amounts of protein that you consume. And keep toxicity down when on.

    I take cranberry extract ED when i'm off . Your liver is very important.
     

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    Why buckle your seatbelt when you get into your car? You probably won't get into a car accident.

    You want to make sure you are protected in case something un-expected comes up.
     

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    Nothing in your body will function properly if your liver is not up to scratch.
    When you use a toxic oral, if you are not using liver aids, you will know that your liver is getting stressed because you will start getting nauseous after a few weeks and you can't eat, etc.
    If your body is not healthy, you will not get the results that you should from your bodybuilding, so make sure you are healthy as a first priority, and that includes the liver.

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    Originally posted by Big A
    Nothing in your body will function properly if your liver is not up to scratch.
    When you use a toxic oral, if you are not using liver aids, you will know that your liver is getting stressed because you will start getting nauseous after a few weeks and you can't eat, etc.
    If your body is not healthy, you will not get the results that you should from your bodybuilding, so make sure you are healthy as a first priority, and that includes the liver.
    yeah but he has never heard of anyone with liver problems
     

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    Liver Enzyme Tests
    Although these enzymes may be produced by other tissues in the body, an unexplained elevation of one or more of these enzymes is a concern for an impairment of liver function. The liver enzymes most commonly encountered include:

    • SGOT (serum glutamic oxaloacetic transaminase) also known as AST (aspartate aminotransferase)
    • SGPT (serum glutamic pyruvic transaminase) also known as ALT (alanine aminotransferase)
    • GGTP or GGT (gamma-glutamyl transferase or transpeptidase)

    Elevations of SGOT and SGPT are usually caused by some type of liver cell damage which alters the permeability of the cell membrane and allows the enzyme to “leak out.” The degree of elevation roughly parallels the extent of liver cell damage. GGTP is a very sensitive enzyme for the early detection of liver disease or damage. Many different impairments may cause an elevation such as: hepatitis, cirrhosis, fatty liver, carcinoma, alcohol use, some medications (such as barbituates, tranquilizers, dilantin, digoxin, and cholesterol-lowering drugs, e.g. Mevacor), and a variety of infiltrative diseases.
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    Originally posted by doodle
    Liver Enzyme Tests
    Although these enzymes may be produced by other tissues in the body, an unexplained elevation of one or more of these enzymes is a concern for an impairment of liver function. The liver enzymes most commonly encountered include:

    • SGOT (serum glutamic oxaloacetic transaminase) also known as AST (aspartate aminotransferase)
    • SGPT (serum glutamic pyruvic transaminase) also known as ALT (alanine aminotransferase)
    • GGTP or GGT (gamma-glutamyl transferase or transpeptidase)

    Elevations of SGOT and SGPT are usually caused by some type of liver cell damage which alters the permeability of the cell membrane and allows the enzyme to “leak out.” The degree of elevation roughly parallels the extent of liver cell damage. GGTP is a very sensitive enzyme for the early detection of liver disease or damage. Many different impairments may cause an elevation such as: hepatitis, cirrhosis, fatty liver, carcinoma, alcohol use, some medications (such as barbituates, tranquilizers, dilantin, digoxin, and cholesterol-lowering drugs, e.g. Mevacor), and a variety of infiltrative diseases.
    great post bro
     

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