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Steroid Super Stacks
by Cy Willson
One of the most common steroid questions Testosterone receives is, "What 'roids should I stack together for optimal results?" In this article, I'll provide several stacking protocols based on feedback sent to me over the years by T-mag readers.
Remember that the effects reported from these androgen stacks are purely anecdotal.
While science is always something I tend to side with, it's difficult to argue with firsthand experiences. Therefore, it's important to take what people experience and then try to use science to validate what's occurring, or at the very least provide a clue as to why certain effects occur.
For instance, something I noticed while compiling this info was the variance in "feel effect" of various androgens. In other words, those that seemed to impart hypertrophy in a short amount of time were preferred over those androgens which were less associated with hypertrophy and more associated with satellite cell activation. (I go into more detail about this in my Triple Shot article.) This may affect how some people judge the "best" stacks, so just keep that in mind.
The Stacks
1. Trenbolone and Testosterone
Most seemed to have favorable effects when taking at least 300-700 mg/week along with 240-500 mg/week of Testosterone. The most reported benefits were a substantial increase in muscle mass, a decrease in body fat, and only a moderate level of edema (fluid retention).
Over a six week period, one person reported going from 185 pounds at 11% body fat to 208 pounds at 8% body fat, although he did admit that he started the cycle after not training for four weeks as well as previously following a somewhat poor diet. Even so, this is pretty damn impressive. Strength increases were near the top as compared to other stacks.
2. Trenbolone and Methandrostenolone (D-bol)
Trenbolone again was in the range of 300-700 mg/week while the methandrostenolone dosage ranged from 105-350 mg/week. This particular stack was reported as being one of the most noticeable in terms of a "pump" or "feel effect."
3. Trenbolone and Stanozolol (Winstrol)
This stack, while not producing as much of a rapid increase in lean body mass, is typically favored when reducing fat mass is the main goal. Even so, significant gains were made with little edema occurring. Loss of fat mass was typically seen as well. Trenbolone dosages were again 300-700 mg/week while stanozolol dosages were between 350-700 mg/week.
4. Oxymetholone (Anadrol) and Stanozolol
This particular stack seemed to be popular in terms of experiencing quick strength gains and rapid increases in weight. However, it can lead to edema. Oxymetholone was reported in the range of 350-700 mg/week and stanozolol was typically in the same range.
5. Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) and Methandrostenolone
This stack was one of the most popular in terms of producing an increase in hypertrophy but the strength gains weren't as impressive for most people. Dosages ranged from 400-1,000 mg/week of nandrolone with 105-350 mg/week of methandrostenolone.
Side note: Methenolone and boldenone stacked with either stanozolol or methandrostenolone in place of nandrolone seemed to be preferred amongst those who'd used those combinations. Overall though, the popularity went to nandrolone decanoate being stacked with stanozolol or methandrostenolone.
I'm guessing this is true because "deca" is such a common reference regarding anabolic steroids, even amongst those who don't know much about them. In other words, even Mr. Natural at the gym knows what "deca" is.
6. Testosterone and Methandrostenolone
This stack seemed to have the same popularity as the deca and D-bol stack, although, in this case, edema and gynecomastia (bitch tits) were reported. Unfortunately, not everyone knows to use anti-estrogens or aromatase inhibitors when using such androgens. Common dosages were 500-2,000 mg/week of Testosterone and 105-350 mg/week of methandrostenolone.
7. Testosterone and Stanozolol
This stack seemed to be slightly less popular, probably because it's missing the "pump" D-bol is so famous for producing in a short period of time. Common dosages were 500-2,000 mg/week of Testosterone and 350-700 mg/week of stanozolol. Strength gains were impressive.
8. Testosterone as a Stand-alone
Testosterone as a stand-alone at dosages of 500-2,000 mg/week was pretty popular.
A substantial increase in sex drive and considerable gains in muscle mass, with a slight decrease in fat mass, were reported. The effects were still less pronounced than the trenbolone/Testosterone stack, however. Strength gains, while not being as impressive as trenbolone, were still very significant.
9. Trenbolone as a Stand-alone
Common dosages seemed to be in the range of 300-750 mg/week. Strength gains were again impressive and lean body mass gains were considered moderate. A significant reduction in fat mass was common. Using trenbolone by itself wasn't as popular as using Test by itself, probably because many report a decrease in sex drive which didn't return for some time after discontinuation of tren use.
10. Oxymetholone as a Stand-alone
Common dosages were 350-700 mg/week. Gains in lean body mass were substantial and a very slight decrease in fat mass was reported. A significant increase in strength was also seen. The two problems most commonly seen were progestagenic gynecomastia and edema.
11. Methandrostenolone as a Stand-alone
Common dosages were 350-700 mg/week. Edema wasn't much of an issue, but gynecomastia did seem to occur with a few people. Gains were pretty close to the level reported with oxymetholone. Strength gains, as compared to oxymetholone, were substantially lower.
12. Stanozolol as a Stand-alone
Dosages ranged from 350-1,500 mg/week. Gains in lean body mass seemed to be moderate while a significant reduction in fat mass was seen. Edema wasn't an issue. At the higher end of the range, people seemed to experience some really impressive results in terms of fat mass reduction. Strength gains were also significant.
13. Methenolone as a Stand-alone
Dosages used were in the range of 600-2,000 mg/week. Edema wasn't an issue and a substantial increase in lean body mass was seen along with a moderate reduction in fat mass. This was probably one of the lowest in terms of people reporting the "feel effect." In general, most didn't report any shocking strength increases.
14. Oxandrolone as a Stand-alone
Dosages ranged from 100-700 mg/week. Edema wasn't an issue. Most users reported only a very moderate increase in lean body mass, but a rather significant reduction in fat mass. This again was one of the lowest in terms of "feel effect."
15. Fluoxymesterone (Halotestin) as a Stand-alone
Dosages ranged from 100-500 mg/week. A moderate increase in lean body mass was seen, as was a moderate reduction in fat mass. Strength gains were noteworthy.
Conclusion and an Important Reminder
So, based on reader feedback, it looks like the trenbolone/Testosterone stack ranks the highest, with Fluoxymesterone ranking the lowest when used as a stand-alone drug.
A quick reminder: don't forget the anti-estrogens or aromatase inhibitors when using certain androgens!
Steroid Super Stacks
by Cy Willson
One of the most common steroid questions Testosterone receives is, "What 'roids should I stack together for optimal results?" In this article, I'll provide several stacking protocols based on feedback sent to me over the years by T-mag readers.
Remember that the effects reported from these androgen stacks are purely anecdotal.
While science is always something I tend to side with, it's difficult to argue with firsthand experiences. Therefore, it's important to take what people experience and then try to use science to validate what's occurring, or at the very least provide a clue as to why certain effects occur.
For instance, something I noticed while compiling this info was the variance in "feel effect" of various androgens. In other words, those that seemed to impart hypertrophy in a short amount of time were preferred over those androgens which were less associated with hypertrophy and more associated with satellite cell activation. (I go into more detail about this in my Triple Shot article.) This may affect how some people judge the "best" stacks, so just keep that in mind.
The Stacks
1. Trenbolone and Testosterone
Most seemed to have favorable effects when taking at least 300-700 mg/week along with 240-500 mg/week of Testosterone. The most reported benefits were a substantial increase in muscle mass, a decrease in body fat, and only a moderate level of edema (fluid retention).
Over a six week period, one person reported going from 185 pounds at 11% body fat to 208 pounds at 8% body fat, although he did admit that he started the cycle after not training for four weeks as well as previously following a somewhat poor diet. Even so, this is pretty damn impressive. Strength increases were near the top as compared to other stacks.
2. Trenbolone and Methandrostenolone (D-bol)
Trenbolone again was in the range of 300-700 mg/week while the methandrostenolone dosage ranged from 105-350 mg/week. This particular stack was reported as being one of the most noticeable in terms of a "pump" or "feel effect."
3. Trenbolone and Stanozolol (Winstrol)
This stack, while not producing as much of a rapid increase in lean body mass, is typically favored when reducing fat mass is the main goal. Even so, significant gains were made with little edema occurring. Loss of fat mass was typically seen as well. Trenbolone dosages were again 300-700 mg/week while stanozolol dosages were between 350-700 mg/week.
4. Oxymetholone (Anadrol) and Stanozolol
This particular stack seemed to be popular in terms of experiencing quick strength gains and rapid increases in weight. However, it can lead to edema. Oxymetholone was reported in the range of 350-700 mg/week and stanozolol was typically in the same range.
5. Nandrolone Decanoate (Deca) and Methandrostenolone
This stack was one of the most popular in terms of producing an increase in hypertrophy but the strength gains weren't as impressive for most people. Dosages ranged from 400-1,000 mg/week of nandrolone with 105-350 mg/week of methandrostenolone.
Side note: Methenolone and boldenone stacked with either stanozolol or methandrostenolone in place of nandrolone seemed to be preferred amongst those who'd used those combinations. Overall though, the popularity went to nandrolone decanoate being stacked with stanozolol or methandrostenolone.
I'm guessing this is true because "deca" is such a common reference regarding anabolic steroids, even amongst those who don't know much about them. In other words, even Mr. Natural at the gym knows what "deca" is.
6. Testosterone and Methandrostenolone
This stack seemed to have the same popularity as the deca and D-bol stack, although, in this case, edema and gynecomastia (bitch tits) were reported. Unfortunately, not everyone knows to use anti-estrogens or aromatase inhibitors when using such androgens. Common dosages were 500-2,000 mg/week of Testosterone and 105-350 mg/week of methandrostenolone.
7. Testosterone and Stanozolol
This stack seemed to be slightly less popular, probably because it's missing the "pump" D-bol is so famous for producing in a short period of time. Common dosages were 500-2,000 mg/week of Testosterone and 350-700 mg/week of stanozolol. Strength gains were impressive.
8. Testosterone as a Stand-alone
Testosterone as a stand-alone at dosages of 500-2,000 mg/week was pretty popular.
A substantial increase in sex drive and considerable gains in muscle mass, with a slight decrease in fat mass, were reported. The effects were still less pronounced than the trenbolone/Testosterone stack, however. Strength gains, while not being as impressive as trenbolone, were still very significant.
9. Trenbolone as a Stand-alone
Common dosages seemed to be in the range of 300-750 mg/week. Strength gains were again impressive and lean body mass gains were considered moderate. A significant reduction in fat mass was common. Using trenbolone by itself wasn't as popular as using Test by itself, probably because many report a decrease in sex drive which didn't return for some time after discontinuation of tren use.
10. Oxymetholone as a Stand-alone
Common dosages were 350-700 mg/week. Gains in lean body mass were substantial and a very slight decrease in fat mass was reported. A significant increase in strength was also seen. The two problems most commonly seen were progestagenic gynecomastia and edema.
11. Methandrostenolone as a Stand-alone
Common dosages were 350-700 mg/week. Edema wasn't much of an issue, but gynecomastia did seem to occur with a few people. Gains were pretty close to the level reported with oxymetholone. Strength gains, as compared to oxymetholone, were substantially lower.
12. Stanozolol as a Stand-alone
Dosages ranged from 350-1,500 mg/week. Gains in lean body mass seemed to be moderate while a significant reduction in fat mass was seen. Edema wasn't an issue. At the higher end of the range, people seemed to experience some really impressive results in terms of fat mass reduction. Strength gains were also significant.
13. Methenolone as a Stand-alone
Dosages used were in the range of 600-2,000 mg/week. Edema wasn't an issue and a substantial increase in lean body mass was seen along with a moderate reduction in fat mass. This was probably one of the lowest in terms of people reporting the "feel effect." In general, most didn't report any shocking strength increases.
14. Oxandrolone as a Stand-alone
Dosages ranged from 100-700 mg/week. Edema wasn't an issue. Most users reported only a very moderate increase in lean body mass, but a rather significant reduction in fat mass. This again was one of the lowest in terms of "feel effect."
15. Fluoxymesterone (Halotestin) as a Stand-alone
Dosages ranged from 100-500 mg/week. A moderate increase in lean body mass was seen, as was a moderate reduction in fat mass. Strength gains were noteworthy.
Conclusion and an Important Reminder
So, based on reader feedback, it looks like the trenbolone/Testosterone stack ranks the highest, with Fluoxymesterone ranking the lowest when used as a stand-alone drug.
A quick reminder: don't forget the anti-estrogens or aromatase inhibitors when using certain androgens!
