Looking to start my fisrt cycle need info

MadMaxx

MadMaxx

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Questions i am looking to start my first cycle
i am going to get test prop..
i heard 21 gauge needles....
i have the dose monday 500mg and then thursday 500 mg

Now i dont have any idea how long i should be on it for ?
I dont know what else i should take to control my estrogen ?
I dont know what nutrients should i take with it ...?

Also when does the PCT come in to play ...
and anything else you might think i need or should consider ...

i dont know if this helps but i am 6'5 197 lbs
my workouts consist of bench deadlifts squats military press's
cleans .. and the regular standard workout routines ....
 
Hey Maxx. How long have you been training and how old are you? How is your diet now? Steroids are just a piece of the puzzle. Let me know these things and I will try to help. A lot of other people here who have a lot of experience as well. This is good place to ask for help. 21 is fine, I use 22, only thing I wonder is why such a high dose Maxx, 1000mgs per week is pretty high for your first cycle imo.
 
1000mg sounds high to me also. esp if you're new. I'd go with 500mg max but others may say differently. how long you should run it depends on your goals.
pct depends on how long you run and the dose you decide on.

Nolvadex always worked for me for anti e, but everyone's different and id say it also depends on your goals.

like Jenn said 21 gauge is all good
 
First cycle and I would try to run it 100 mgs of prop Mon, Wed, Fri with 23 gauge syringe, IMO.
 
Thanks to all for replying .. all this info really helps .. to jen im 30 yrs i have been going to the gym for a year now

To jpotch i was thinking of running it for 6 months or sonething like that .. dont know yet
 
For your first cycle (which I'd discourage if you've only been training for a year), I'd suggest going with 100mg EOD for a 12 week cycle. I'd probably suggest going with 500mg every week of Test E or C though. You'll gain plenty there and it'll be much cheaper for you as well. But the 21g is going to be bigger than you think to start out with. I would say a 23g for bigger muscles and 25g for smaller muscles (tris, bis, delts, calves) would be something better to start out with though. I mean, that's entirely up to you though.

But I can't stress enough that if you've only been training for a year that you can get far better results from dieting correctly and training heavy, but in the end it's 100% your decision and we'll be more than happy to help you in what you decide.
 
As far as nutrients (supplements), take in plenty of protein, get your creatine, BCAA and multi vitamins also. As far as food goes, green vegetables (green beans, broccoli...), meat (chicken, turkey, steak, fish) and other carbs would be yams, potatoes and oats.
 
big n wv said:
For your first cycle (which I'd discourage if you've only been training for a year), I'd suggest going with 100mg EOD for a 12 week cycle. I'd probably suggest going with 500mg every week of Test E or C though. You'll gain plenty there and it'll be much cheaper for you as well. But the 21g is going to be bigger than you think to start out with. I would say a 23g for bigger muscles and 25g for smaller muscles (tris, bis, delts, calves) would be something better to start out with though. I mean, that's entirely up to you though.

But I can't stress enough that if you've only been training for a year that you can get far better results from dieting correctly and training heavy, but in the end it's 100% your decision and we'll be more than happy to help you in what you decide.
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I agree with big, but I would stick mainly to hitting your ass (think high and outside) and maybe your shoulders. 22s are ok for ass and shoulders (what I use) 21 like big said is bigger than you think. Also really clean the area well with alcohol, rub the area good after your shot and clean it again. Nolvadex works well for me as an anti e but better for you to hear from the guys here who run pct as I do not being female.
 
I forgot about the PCT, if you were to pick up some Aqua-Dex or Aqua-Clo from the store here and then get some Nolva-Bloat along with it, that's more than enough for PCT. I'd just have the Nolva-Bloat on hand in case you start showing signs of gyno. It's better to have and not use than to need and not have.
 
big n wv said:
I forgot about the PCT, if you were to pick up some Aqua-Dex or Aqua-Clo from the store here and then get some Nolva-Bloat along with it, that's more than enough for PCT. I'd just have the Nolva-Bloat on hand in case you start showing signs of gyno. It's better to have and not use than to need and not have.
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I have to agree I wish I had some on hand now.. But if this is your first I think you could grow off of 250mg of test for 12 weeks.. I think 1000mg a week is over kill for your first cycle.. Why so high ?
 
First i wld like to thank you all for taking the time and sharing .. this info
To big n wv and others (questions) .. get ready ha ha
1. When do i take the nolva at what point what symthoms am i lookibg at to start the nolva ..
2. I heard the injection has to go slow correct ??
3. Big n wv you said yo take it for 12 weeks .. so after take the PCT .. or is estrogen goes crazy and i need to sabaliz it ?

If i sound like i dont know shit its cause its true i just want to cover everythig since ita just me and i have never done this at all alittle scared and im no affraid to say it .. thats all but i want to do this ..
 
MadMaxx said:
First i wld like to thank you all for taking the time and sharing .. this info
To big n wv and others (questions) .. get ready ha ha
1. When do i take the nolva at what point what symthoms am i lookibg at to start the nolva ..
2. I heard the injection has to go slow correct ??
3. Big n wv you said yo take it for 12 weeks .. so after take the PCT .. or is estrogen goes crazy and i need to sabaliz it ?

If i sound like i dont know shit its cause its true i just want to cover everythig since ita just me and i have never done this at all alittle scared and im no affraid to say it .. thats all but i want to do this ..
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I'd really only take Nolva if you start to have signs of gyno.

I would suggest going slow when you inject so that you're just being careful. Don't put the needle all the way in for the simple fact that if it were to break off (highly unlikely) at least you'll have something to grab ahold of to pull it out.

Yes, I'd take the PCT roughly a week after your last test shot. You should be fine up until this point, but if you have any signs of gyno, again just take the Nolva-Bloat and you'll be fine until you start the PCT
 
It's a good thing you came here bro! You're not going to get this kind of helpful and friendly advice anywhere else when it comes to this subject! Good luck!
 
I would strongly suggest you spend more time training naturally and do more research before you start. Once you start to use, to me at least, that becomes a set point. You will never train with the same enthusiasm naturally once you've used AAS. Get as big as possible naturally, have your diet down, and know about AAS. 1g a week for your first cycle is literally insane. You will have more than enough in your system to gain with 200mg of test cyp a week. You need alot more research bro. Many of these questions you should not have to ask. Personally I use a 25g. Steroids aren't for fun. If this has become an integral part of your life than it may be something to consider later, but at 1 year and your lack of knowledge, it obviously has not. I'm not smashing you at all so please don't take it that way, but it's not possible for you to reach your natural potential in 1 year.
 
Yeah try a prohormones before and anabolic and you may see how your body responds. I use a 25g and warm it up with a hair drier a little for smooth flow. Smaller the needle the less scar tissue possible buildup. Ox got you set up on newbie juicen which is helpful.
 
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