Need advice: Getting back into lifting with persistent injury

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Illusive One

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Hey everyone this is my first post on this site,

I've been out of the gym for awhile now, the doctors have narrowed my injury down to possible nerve damage or pinched nerves. They've cleared me to go back to the gym 3 months ago because they now believe I can't make my injury any worse. I also have a winged scapula. I have been working out for 2 months now.

I won't be using anabolic steroids anymore, I'm a recovering addict and haven't had a drink or a drug in close to two years. The problem with steroids is I was way more addicted to how I felt physically rather than the physical results.

I want to use something I can't buy at a store to help with building lean body mass and reducing fat. I've heard people talk about peptides, HgH, igf, etc.

Does anyone have any recommendations?
 
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welcome! read up on the peptides and see what one is for you, they are all legal, however the HGH is obviously illegal, so i doubt you wanna go that route and if u can get good results keeping it legal then why not! Also their is something everyone is talking about, DMZ, not sure about it personaly but i think its legal and u might wanna go that route??
 
Super DMZ 2,0 along with MC IGF is a great legal combo with more than fantastic results, even MC IGF by itself works wonders, just make sure you only get it from MC otherwise ur wasting ur money and time.
 
Thanks for the input. I ordered 1 bottle of the Super DMX RX 2.0 (I know I will need more than one bottle for 6 weeks of use.) I noticed they suggest one or two pills split during the day. I also noticed on the same page it says 1-3 pills. 3 makes sense to me but I'd appreciate your advice on that.

Also I did order the buy 1 get 1 of the MC IGF. I'm not sure if I bought enough yet I just wanted to get started ASAP. What's good for a daily dose first time IGF? 20mcg, 40?

eswol said:
Super DMZ 2,0 along with MC IGF is a great legal combo with more than fantastic results, even MC IGF by itself works wonders, just make sure you only get it from MC otherwise ur wasting ur money and time.
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illusive one said:
thanks for the input. I ordered 1 bottle of the super dmx rx 2.0 (i know i will need more than one bottle for 6 weeks of use.) i noticed they suggest one or two pills split during the day. I also noticed on the same page it says 1-3 pills. 3 makes sense to me but i'd appreciate your advice on that.

Also i did order the buy 1 get 1 of the mc igf. I'm not sure if i bought enough yet i just wanted to get started asap. What's good for a daily dose first time igf? 20mcg, 40?
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30mcgs is ok to start with if trying to stretch it out, but i would say try 40-50mcgs daily
 
Illusive One said:
Thanks for the input. I ordered 1 bottle of the Super DMX RX 2.0 (I know I will need more than one bottle for 6 weeks of use.) I noticed they suggest one or two pills split during the day. I also noticed on the same page it says 1-3 pills. 3 makes sense to me but I'd appreciate your advice on that.

Also I did order the buy 1 get 1 of the MC IGF. I'm not sure if I bought enough yet I just wanted to get started ASAP. What's good for a daily dose first time IGF? 20mcg, 40?
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I'm on my second go around with DMZ and I'm still getting good results with 1 pill a day. It is that good. But I'm going to run 2 pills a day starting next week. You will notice that it kicks in fast. So I wouldn't take 3 pills a day till you see how you react to it.. And I would run igf with it. I'm going to run it myself as soon I get a little cash in my pocket..
 
Illusive One said:
How long do I run IGF for ?
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There are severals ways to run it. Some guys do it everyday, others like myself only use it preworkout. When I would use it everyday I would use at least 12 weeks straight. For me, the results get better the longer you're on it.
Now I use it only preworkout and I use it prior to every workout. It's an amazing product with nothing but great effects from my experience.
 
I personally run IGF everyday. I love the shit and wouldn't know what to do without it. On days that I'm not training, I'll take it in the morning upon waking up
 
How far out of shape are you and how much experience before. Remember DIET is a big factor with or without the others.
I tried the dmz. only took one a day and put on probably 10 lbs. (got hell of heartburn at night though. lol) MC's igf I have
used mostly with injuries and it really helped. Keep us posted.
Also, what kind of woukout plan you have. Pick Our brains bro. There is a lot of experience her with everything, recovery ect....
 
Welcome! Yea DMZ is strong as hell so 2 pills a day is what I would consider the max dose until you see how your body tolerates a strong double compound oral. Drink at least 1.5/2 gallons of water a day if not more and make sure you're taking something to help with liver stress (milk thistle, Liv 52). Also good old creatine is something you can add to your supplement regime. Make sure your diet is on point, 6 meals a day, quality proteins from whole foods, lots of clean carbs, and good fats. You'll need a good high quality whey protein source too. I'd suggest checking out prescription nutrition their prices are unbeatable and the quality of the products is second to none. Oh and the heartburn while on DMZ is brutal so I'd look at getting an OTC preventative. Keep us posted on your progress. This is a very laid back open group here so there are no stupid questions!
 
What is being used PCT for DMZ? When I was using anabolic steroids in the past I used HCG and Arimidex. I would also run Arimidex throughout the entire cycle. Is there an alternative I can use to the expensive HCG?

And, to anyone that asked in the previous posts, the minimum I want to achieve is to harden up. Lower body fat is my primary goal for the next 2 seasons. Of course, added LBM is always welcome. Excluding the past 2 months, over the course of close to a year, I put on a good deal of body fat. Doctors told me to stop lifting for awhile. I let it turn into a depression. I decided to stop exercising completely. I could have easily done cardio and legs but I fed into it (literally) attempting to solve how depressed I felt by eating unhealthy.

I'm actually doing yoga and other things to prevent additional injuries and have been building myself from the ground up this time around.

I also have Clen and T3. Although, I'm not sure if I will use T3 in order to prevent muscle loss. I previously only believed in it when combined with anabolic steroids.

Feel like I'm rambling, that is all for now :)
 
I think you'll be fine to use clomid or Arimidex for your PCT. The HCG is nice and may bring the boys up a little quicker but I don't think it's needed for a 30 day DMZ cycle.

Injuries can really bring you down, but the important thing is you're back at it now!

I'd go with the clen and stay away from the T3, it'll burn fat and muscle. Just the thought of using something that might eat into my hard earned gains makes me cringe lol!
 
Thanks man and agreed with the T3. I'm a huge fan of arimidex , it works really well for me, I'm just used to taking something in conjuction to signal my body to produce my own hormones which arimidex doesn't do alone. You're right though, 4 weeks/30days is nothing.

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I think you'll be fine to use clomid or Arimidex for your PCT. The HCG is nice and may bring the boys up a little quicker but I don't think it's needed for a 30 day DMZ cycle.

Injuries can really bring you down, but the important thing is you're back at it now!

I'd go with the clen and stay away from the T3, it'll burn fat and muscle. Just the thought of using something that might eat into my hard earned gains makes me cringe lol!
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I gotta say I'm most impressed with out members here and how in depth you guys are when helping other members, especially new members! Makes me proud to be part of this site!
 
Illusive One ----Great to hear you picked up yourself some MC IGF.....promise, you wont be sorry. I've been using it a little over a year and its worked wonders...I am a tad excessive than most....I run 100 pre workout....50mcg lunch and 50 mcg before bed (and load it up with GHRP / 1295)...................I apply it to the body part I am working......quads I go 50 mcg each....bicep same.....shoulders etc..... It really been great to use for all around use...I used it in bulking phase....getting ready for two shows last year and now I am strickly using it as a bridge with awesome results........You made a great decision that you will be thanking yourself for later.........
SUPER DMZ.... as Exbeanpole says....DMZ is strong as HELL..........One cap is good.....two caps is about as much as you will want to do..........I ran 3 only for a few days and couldnt take it.........meaning....back pumps throughout the day got painful...also if you take it later in the day or evening you WONT sleep.....and it gives you really bad dry mouth.......but if you can live with that (LOL) its an awesome OTC PH...
it does shut down your own body's production so you will want to have some HCG on hand for your PCT
Good luck........keep me (us) posted on you're progress......
 
+1, grateful to have found this place

Presser said:
I gotta say I'm most impressed with out members here and how in depth you guys are when helping other members, especially new members! Makes me proud to be part of this site!
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The site I used for years sells the Pregnyl HCG for $27-$30 per 5000iu/cc. Does that sound right? I'd rather a cheaper source.

eswol said:
Illusive One ----Great to hear you picked up yourself some MC IGF.....promise, you wont be sorry. I've been using it a little over a year and its worked wonders...I am a tad excessive than most....I run 100 pre workout....50mcg lunch and 50 mcg before bed (and load it up with GHRP / 1295)...................I apply it to the body part I am working......quads I go 50 mcg each....bicep same.....shoulders etc..... It really been great to use for all around use...I used it in bulking phase....getting ready for two shows last year and now I am strickly using it as a bridge with awesome results........You made a great decision that you will be thanking yourself for later.........
SUPER DMZ.... as Exbeanpole says....DMZ is strong as HELL..........One cap is good.....two caps is about as much as you will want to do..........I ran 3 only for a few days and couldnt take it.........meaning....back pumps throughout the day got painful...also if you take it later in the day or evening you WONT sleep.....and it gives you really bad dry mouth.......but if you can live with that (LOL) its an awesome OTC PH...
it does shut down your own body's production so you will want to have some HCG on hand for your PCT
Good luck........keep me (us) posted on you're progress......
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Edit: I'm also going to run M1-T
 
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That's good, I just bought 3 boxes today at $43 for a box of 5,000 iu. I know it's really only $15 per box in TJ (Mexico)
 
eswol said:
That's good, I just bought 3 boxes today at $43 for a box of 5,000 iu. I know it's really only $15 per box in TJ (Mexico)
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These prices are still a steal if you look at prices without health insurance..

I have a script for HCG through my endo..and at the pharmacy 10,000 iu kits sell for 4-500 dollars EACH!. And I am not exaggerating the least bit.
 
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