Blood Work: Not as good as I thought. Maybe Im Not ready after all?

So I don’t really know a lot about blood work and on top of that cycles and blood work. But I’m learning.
I don’t think I’m looking very good here and wanted to get your thoughts.
What I want to know is can I do a new cycle or is that out of the question tell I get some of this sorted out first? And if so Ill get a plan of action

These are the things that are bad. PDFs are attached. (Testosterone panels are not done yet)
-Cholesterol
-Triglycerides
-HDL
-LDL
-Liver (ALT)

-Liver was great 4 months ago before starting last cycle ( im assuming dbol. 30mgs for 30 days 3 months ago)
As far as the other stuff. I guess im shocked. Is this testosterone and deca based to have it that bad?



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Thanks

Hey Brother, I'm a Lab Rat by trade and can give you some good general knowledge about your blood work, especially as it correlates to AAS use. But, I cannot read those documents. Way too blury for me buddy. Can you try that again uploading those or just type out the abnormal values along with their reference range. Thanks buddy!!

Austin

Austin311 said:

Hey Brother, I'm a Lab Rat by trade and can give you some good general knowledge about your blood work, especially as it correlates to AAS use. But, I cannot read those documents. Way too blury for me buddy. Can you try that again uploading those or just type out the abnormal values along with their reference range. Thanks buddy!!

Austin

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Absolutely sorry about that. and yes I was hoping you would come I was going to msg you if not

let me get it all typed up

i can read them and honestly by the looks of it you need cholesterol medication, your #'s are horrible, you need to lay off orals in the future as well that will help your cholesterol.

the absence of oral will help with the elevated liver enzymes as well.

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cholesterol medication at least to get your #'s normal and then maintain with diet, but you need to monitor them.

Don't worry about the liver value bc that isn't that high and is just a marker, but everything else is bad man. You should take at least a year off. You won't recover from a panel that bad quickly.

And let me stress this again... for you NOT being on cycle during this blood work, this is REALLY REALLY bad. You have zero business running a new cycle any time soon.

ok this is for Austin311 then Ill pipe in about all your thoughts.

-Cholesterol 300
-Triglycerides 291
-HDL 25
-LDL 217
-Liver (ALT) 98

if you need the ranges ill re post it with them.

This honestly makes no since to me but I appreciate you guys setting me straight.

This is why um dumb founded.
-body fat is about 17%
-I eat pretty damn clean. sure red meat and stuff but not over crazy about it.
- cardio 30 min a day

So I ask my self how is this so shitty? Genetics?, cycle did it to me?.

im just pretty damn active so im stunned.



so plan of action to fix this is to let the Doc put me in meds and cut out more of my diet?

its a combo of diet, genetic, and gear.

at this time i would pretty much cut red meat except maybe 1x a week, increase cardio, increase healthy fats like fish oil.

if you go to the doc i can almost guarantee they will put you on cholesterol meds to lower your total cholesterol and triglycerides

I have one more question...Were you fasting for this blood work? I don't fast for mine due to the fact I want to see how bad I run normally through out the day. If you were it is pretty bad. I like to see how my diet is affecting my triglycerides and that's why I run it middle of the day. You need a cholesterol medication to help lower your total Cholesterol. I'm guessing its more a genetic predisposition for high cholesterol. Also, some triglyceride abnormalities are due to high sugar intake.
Your good chol (HDL) is too low and bad chol (LDL) too high. Gear can do this and does it to me, but after a few weeks it corrects itself. Nandrolones (Tren, Deca) are notorious for killing HDL as well as EQ.

I'll give you an example. I'm currently running Test E 500mg/wk, Mast E 600mg/wk and MC IGF 200mcg/day. I ran my blood work yesterday. Here's the numbers..

CHOL 179
TRIG 214
HDL 42
LDL 117

That's on gear.....

the hemoglobin and hemocrit should go to normal after being off for 3-4 months, the liver value should return to normal after you stop orals

your cholesterol was bad...I can't see test and deca doing this-tren yes, test and deca no

The Deca will kill the HDL, but no gear will run your Chol up like that unless your prone to it before hand and it was probably elevated prior to the cycle....

I heard that by running a anti-E that will help the HDL and LDL

It will unless its Letro. It will kill your HDL as well

I'd just be worried about your cholesterol. Mine never gets high, I just have to watch blood pressure. The times I've used decca, it's never done that to me.

You're hema and hemo are just a little high on the scale. Your cholesterol though, that has to be genetics or predisposed to it from gear.

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The Deca will kill the HDL, but no gear will run your Chol up like that unless your prone to it before hand and it was probably elevated prior to the cycle....

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this is why I don't get guys that are running a high Deca or Tren cycle with low Test

I guess they are on cholesterol meds?

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Austin311 said:

The Deca will kill the HDL, but no gear will run your Chol up like that unless your prone to it before hand and it was probably elevated prior to the cycle....

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this is why I don't get guys that are running a high Deca or Tren cycle with low Test

I guess they are on cholesterol meds?

Austin311 said:

I have one more question...Were you fasting for this blood work? I don't fast for mine due to the fact I want to see how bad I run normally through out the day. If you were it is pretty bad. I like to see how my diet is affecting my triglycerides and that's why I run it middle of the day. You need a cholesterol medication to help lower your total Cholesterol. I'm guessing its more a genetic predisposition for high cholesterol. Also, some triglyceride abnormalities are due to high sugar intake.
Your good chol (HDL) is too low and bad chol (LDL) too high. Gear can do this and does it to me, but after a few weeks it corrects itself. Nandrolones (Tren, Deca) are notorious for killing HDL as well as EQ.

I'll give you an example. I'm currently running Test E 500mg/wk, Mast E 600mg/wk and MC IGF 200mcg/day. I ran my blood work yesterday. Here's the numbers..

CHOL 179
TRIG 214
HDL 42
LDL 117

That's on gear.....

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Yes I was Fasting. ( 10 hours)

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Austin311 said:

I have one more question...Were you fasting for this blood work? I don't fast for mine due to the fact I want to see how bad I run normally through out the day. If you were it is pretty bad. I like to see how my diet is affecting my triglycerides and that's why I run it middle of the day. You need a cholesterol medication to help lower your total Cholesterol. I'm guessing its more a genetic predisposition for high cholesterol. Also, some triglyceride abnormalities are due to high sugar intake.
Your good chol (HDL) is too low and bad chol (LDL) too high. Gear can do this and does it to me, but after a few weeks it corrects itself. Nandrolones (Tren, Deca) are notorious for killing HDL as well as EQ.

I'll give you an example. I'm currently running Test E 500mg/wk, Mast E 600mg/wk and MC IGF 200mcg/day. I ran my blood work yesterday. Here's the numbers..

CHOL 179
TRIG 214
HDL 42
LDL 117

That's on gear.....

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Yes I was Fasting. ( 10 hours)

Austin311 said:

I have one more question...Were you fasting for this blood work? I don't fast for mine due to the fact I want to see how bad I run normally through out the day. If you were it is pretty bad. I like to see how my diet is affecting my triglycerides and that's why I run it middle of the day. You need a cholesterol medication to help lower your total Cholesterol. I'm guessing its more a genetic predisposition for high cholesterol. Also, some triglyceride abnormalities are due to high sugar intake.
Your good chol (HDL) is too low and bad chol (LDL) too high. Gear can do this and does it to me, but after a few weeks it corrects itself. Nandrolones (Tren, Deca) are notorious for killing HDL as well as EQ.

I'll give you an example. I'm currently running Test E 500mg/wk, Mast E 600mg/wk and MC IGF 200mcg/day. I ran my blood work yesterday. Here's the numbers..

CHOL 179
TRIG 214
HDL 42
LDL 117

That's on gear.....

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This is how you use gear people. Good job Austin

InnerG said:

Yes I was Fasting. ( 10 hours)

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Yes I was Fasting. ( 10 hours)

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Damn son!! Here's my opinion. Like a**holes, everyone's got one so this aint medical advice. I would get with my DR and get a good med going to bring that CHOL down as well as the TRIG. Being off the Deca for several more weeks along with a little cleaner diet and the meds will help bring up your HDL and lower your CHOL.

Now, here is where alot of folk may or may not disagree with me, but hey its their choice or yours to disagree. I wouldn't necessarily say you cant run a cycle right now, but you can only run certain compounds and with CHOL that high you're going to have to watch your fat intake and watch your bllod pressure. You need to be getting your exercise in along with the diet to help the issues. Meaning that a low dose of Test and some IGF would be a good mild cycle to keep going if you have problems with motivation to the gym. If you can stay off gear entirely and still hit the gym, then by all means give the CHOL meds about 6 months and recheck everything. Then, assess whether you want to cycle again. If it were me, I'd stay away from Deca and Tren for sure due to the way its affecting your HDL.

A low dose of Test and IGF wont hurt your CHOL with the right amount of exercise and a correct diet. But, it will give you the correct motivation to continue eating right and hittin them weights. So, there's my 2 cents....

Peace,
Austin

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fstr03svtcobra said:

This is how you use gear people. Good job Austin

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Mucho Appreciato Daddio!!!

Austin311 said:

It will unless its Letro. It will kill your HDL as well

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Damn I love this forum.
Ok I want to touch on some PST stuff dorian123 and Austin311 both hit on Then ill talk about what the doc wants to do.(hes calling me back)

dorian123 said "I heard that by running a anti-E that will help the HDL and LDL"

My question is should I run a PST again? and if so what for how long? Might me a hard question.

you mean PCT? what did you run the 1st time

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how long ago did you run it