Dr prescribed TRT & HCG

It's been a while since I've posted but MC has always given advice when needed and once again I would like some opinions. My test levels are around 300 after 2 years from using any gear so I believe it is safe to say they aren't going to change without intervention...

my my doctor wants me to take .8 of cyp once a week to get my levels between 850-1200 and since this will shut down my natural production he is also prescribing me HCG to take the entire time until I've decided I'm not going to have children.

I've done research but I want to hear your guys opinions over people on threads I don't know. Is this accurate? If I start taking TRT and take HCG with it the entire time that I should have be able to still father children?

i would lean towards you still being able to father kids, though your sperm count might be so low you may need to do in vitro fertilization like my wife and i had to do. It should help keep you fertile, you just possibly won't have the volume of good sperm it would take to reach the egg lol, i was on for many many years straight, and came off and had NO sperm and went on HCG and then had good looking healthy swimmer though not too many so i jacked off in a cup, doctor was able to grab the absolute biggest best athletic i might add sperm lol, and he used them to fertilize a bunch of my wife's eggs in the lab, then waited til they fertilized, then popped them back in her and i have the healthiest , biggest set of boy/girl twins a man could ask for, and they're stunningly gorgeous kids! lol

so yeah i think its a good idea to stay on the hcg to try helping keep ya fertile, like i said even with me using testosterone for years on end, coming off with no sperm and then HCG, and VOILA good sperm, not a lot or enough to knock my wife up from behind lol, but hey I'm happy, so you'll be fine

I did a ton of shit over the years with little to no down time, so did my wife. She also went through stage 3 breast cancer at age 30 and took Nolvadex for 5 years after her last treatment. I never went on a Doc TRT prescribed plan and at 37 and 40 we had our 1st child 10lbs 9oz and 23" long. I would be 100% with you doc on anything and everything bro.

The other nice thing about doing HCG is your boys stay plump - there is no shrinkage.

Ok so this question is something I probably shouldn't be thinking but am. I been on clomid for months (50mg EOD) and now I'm gonna stop and start with .8 of cyp a week to see where that puts my levels at. The doctor wants me to come in after 7 weeks to see where my levels are to decide if we need to increase/decrease and look at all levels. I'm picking up a 10cc bottle today. Which makes sense because test cyp takes about 7-8 weeks to hit you. I'm thinking my test levels will crash from stopping the clomid and waiting for the cyp to kick in. If I took dbols for the first 5 weeks then stopped for 3 weeks and get my levels tested again. Do you think it would throw off the results? Or in 3 weeks would I go back to wherever the test alone would have me?

Taking dbol will lower your body's natural testosterone levels.

what.....

Sorry guys I'm at the mall with family & rushing. Taking dianabol will lower your body's natural testosterone levels.

Well if I'm going on TRT my natural test is going to be shut down. My test levels will be from the exogenous test that I am taking. So my natural levels I don't need to worry about

I would not mess with anything to you get your terrt dialed in. If the doctor even gets wind that you watching anything other than what he prescribed secret drop you like a rock and you'll be in a hard place

cream123 said:

Ok so this question is something I probably shouldn't be thinking but am. I been on clomid for months (50mg EOD) and now I'm gonna stop and start with .8 of cyp a week to see where that puts my levels at. The doctor wants me to come in after 7 weeks to see where my levels are to decide if we need to increase/decrease and look at all levels. I'm picking up a 10cc bottle today. Which makes sense because test cyp takes about 7-8 weeks to hit you. I'm thinking my test levels will crash from stopping the clomid and waiting for the cyp to kick in. If I took dbols for the first 5 weeks then stopped for 3 weeks and get my levels tested again. Do you think it would throw off the results? Or in 3 weeks would I go back to wherever the test alone would have me?

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It actually hits you immediately. When you hear talk of the length of time to kick in, that's referring to building up a peak level in the blood that is beneficial for building the most muscle, and it usually only takes 3-4 weeks for that then starts to stabilize if you are taking the prescribed dose regularly. For the doctor's purposes however, your levels will raise up immediately and will reach the highest they can get from that dose on about the second day. Your levels won't crash at all.

If you take the dbol at the same time you are taking the test cyp, it won't affect the test because you'll be measuring the levels from the test cyp in your body. If you aren't taking the test cyp but only take dbol, then whatever natural testosterone level you have will be lowered which will show on the test.

cybrsage said:

I would not mess with anything to you get your terrt dialed in. If the doctor even gets wind that you watching anything other than what he prescribed secret drop you like a rock and you'll be in a hard place

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agreed

cybrsage said:

I would not mess with anything to you get your terrt dialed in. If the doctor even gets wind that you watching anything other than what he prescribed secret drop you like a rock and you'll be in a hard place

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Waiting sounds right to me too. I doesn't sound like you have to wait long.

50mg/ED of clomid for months? How many months? Also bump to BIG Z on his post.

Correct me if I am wrong bro and only asking . It looks like this is about a few different things and we have all been there done that trust me. You are question your doctor advise, You haven't been truthful to your Doctor, Your Doctor is not giving you the answer your looking for? IMO I would have a sit down with your Doctor and tell him what your telling us.

Ok so I took your guys advice and didn't do anything but my doctors prescribed TRT. He currently has me on 1cc (200mgs) of test and I am taking .5ml of HCG twice a week.. But I still have these dbols. 50 50mg tabs. I never took dbols before bc i always feared it would be a waste bc most of the gains are water. I am considering taking them and I wanted your guys advice. From what I've read, a good amount of the gains are water but one can still put on about 5 pounds of keepable muscle a month. So over 50 days (a little shy of 2 months) I could potentially keep 10 pounds of muscle. My diet is in check. I don't count my macros but I stick to lean meats and complex carbs and couple servings of broccoli and healthy fats such are all natural peanut butter or almonds. My goal is to take advantage of these new high test levels and I was thinking since my test levels are peaking about 1200, i feel like if I take dbols I can probably maintain more mass than someone who would run a dbol only cycle. My concern is the water weight. I would prefer not to carry the water weight that I would end up losing anyway. What can I do to get the most muscle gain with the least water retention? Or do you think since I've been on the test about 3 months already there is not much of a point in taking dbols now?

Proviron will help with the water, bloat. But really if you don't wanna hold water dbol is the wrong thing to use. Just my opinion.

With TRT you are now kinda blasting and cruising, the game is now dramitcally different. When you used to lose strength or lose equal fat to muscle when dieting, with TRT this may now be a thing of the past. Everyone will react differently to 200mg of T a week but for me it was a game changer.

Bottom line is the rules as you know them have now changed.

I understand that it may some dumb taking dbols when concerned with water weight. I want to put on as much size as I can before summer get here and I go into a caloric deficit diet. When it comes to gear and gaining mass in a short period of time I think Dbols reigns supreme. Just the idea of looking like the Michelin man for 50 days is something I'd prefer to avoid. Is there anything from the MC store that would reduce/eliminate the water retention?

cream123 said:

I understand that it may some dumb taking dbols when concerned with water weight. I want to put on as much size as I can before summer get here and I go into a caloric deficit diet. When it comes to gear and gaining mass in a short period of time I think Dbols reigns supreme. Just the idea of looking like the Michelin man for 50 days is something I'd prefer to avoid. Is there anything from the MC store that would reduce/eliminate the water retention?

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of course, we have the nolva, and aqua-dex both will eliminate water, nolva does so when the water bloat id already present, and the aqua-dex will stop the conversion of test to estrogen to begin with, so either or would work, just depends where you are at in terms of water bloat and what your using exactly.

as far as the dianabol, sure you can still take one a day for 50 days, and yes a lot of the instant water retention is from dianabol, but it still promotes protein synthesis / anabolism ....so fuck it why not! lol, and this is coming from me, someone who hates dianabol lol, I am not a fan of it at all unless its used to jump start a cycle, but thats just me, it still works and works well and when you take dianabol as a jump start for like just 3 weeks or such, then yes the water weight you gain disapears and your back to square one, but if you can hack taking it longer like all 50 tabs for 50 days then you will surely benefit with some added muscle gains so long as you hit the gym hard, and the added water weight in the muscles makes you stronger and able to push heavier weight, which tares the muscle fibers deeper and voila thats when growth happens!

anyways, thats my take