New member

Hi, just wanted to introduce myself around the forum and get some advice on a new cycle I plan to run.

Stats:
Weight: 215lbs
Height: 5'11"
Body fat: 10%
Age: 25


Former professional fighter so the cycles I ran previously were mainly low dose test prop with either anavar, masteron, EQ or t-Bol. Can no longer fight due to back complications and wanting to avoid surgery therefore wanna pack some mass on. Plan on hitting 240lbs and lean.

Cycles I have been looking at are either:

W1-8 test prop 150mg eod
W1-6 npp 150mg eod


W1-4 test prop 100mg eod
W1-12 test e 300mg a week
W1-12 primobolan e 600mg a week


PCT for both cycles:

last 4 weeks of cycle:
HCgenerate ES (n2bm)

4 weeks post cycle:
Phytomserms (n2bm)
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Ostarine 12.5mg Ed

*I realize I will most likely get flamed for the n2bm products, it's just what has worked for me in the past and is much more user friendly then nolva and hcg etc.*

The most important thing for me from this cycle is lean mass which is keepable, hence primobolan interesting me so much.

Any input is much appreciated, thanks in advance !

Welcome to mc hope ur cycle goes well

mmajake said:

Hi, just wanted to introduce myself around the forum and get some advice on a new cycle I plan to run.

Stats:
Weight: 215lbs
Height: 5'11"
Body fat: 10%
Age: 25


Former professional fighter so the cycles I ran previously were mainly low dose test prop with either anavar, masteron, EQ or t-Bol. Can no longer fight due to back complications and wanting to avoid surgery therefore wanna pack some mass on. Plan on hitting 240lbs and lean.

Cycles I have been looking at are either:

W1-8 test prop 150mg eod
W1-6 npp 150mg eod


W1-4 test prop 100mg eod
W1-12 test e 300mg a week
W1-12 primobolan e 600mg a week


PCT for both cycles:

last 4 weeks of cycle:
HCgenerate ES (n2bm)

4 weeks post cycle:
Phytomserms (n2bm)
Clomid 50/50/50/50
Ostarine 12.5mg Ed

*I realize I will most likely get flamed for the n2bm products, it's just what has worked for me in the past and is much more user friendly then nolva and hcg etc.*

The most important thing for me from this cycle is lean mass which is keepable, hence primobolan interesting me so much.

Any input is much appreciated, thanks in advance !

Click to expand...

welcome to MuscleChemistry brutha, and do yourself a favor and grab some real PCT meds, and i wouldnt start the Ostarine with your post cycle therapy drugs. I would wait until pct was over then jump on the Ostarine, and yes at lower dosages it not suppose to be so suppressive but i would wait if it were me


best lean muscle mass cycle which you can keep your gains long after pct for is this:

Propionate
tren ace
winny
IGF-1 lr3

you can get away with just the Propionate, and tren ace with igf.

And when im not hitting it heavy and just cruising, i like to use just the propionate and the igf.

You should look into IGF-1 lr3 and read as much as you can on it, it makes everything better, you get more from your steroids, and better nutrition uptake, and will help solidify your gains.

in any case welcome to MC!!!

Thanks for the fast response. IGF-1 lr3 is something I've been looking into lately what's the general protocol with that over here. Do you run it in pct or on cycle ? Also tren is that one compound I don't wanna run, I have insomnia as it is and I get night sweats on everything let alone tren so doubt my girl would appreciate it

Also so what do you guys run as pct ? The reason I've stuck with those products is the feel of wellbeing they've provided me during oral only cycles. I've felt lethargic as hell on anavar only cycles (would never run for bodybuilding purposes only pre fight) and then added HCgenerate and felt golden in terms of energy and morning wood, full balls etc.

I will heed your advice though on this next cycle and run a full PCT if I'm running a harsh compound such as NPP.

mmajake said:

Thanks for the fast response. IGF-1 lr3 is something I've been looking into lately what's the general protocol with that over here. Do you run it in pct or on cycle ? Also tren is that one compound I don't wanna run, I have insomnia as it is and I get night sweats on everything let alone tren so doubt my girl would appreciate it

Also so what do you guys run as pct ? The reason I've stuck with those products is the feel of wellbeing they've provided me during oral only cycles. I've felt lethargic as hell on anavar only cycles (would never run for bodybuilding purposes only pre fight) and then added HCgenerate and felt golden in terms of energy and morning wood, full balls etc.

I will heed your advice though on this next cycle and run a full PCT if I'm running a harsh compound such as NPP.

Click to expand...

IGF-1 lr3 is by far better on cycle

IGF-1 LR3 greatly boosts muscle mass by inducing a state of muscle hyperplasia (increase in number of new muscle cells) in the MUSCLE WHERE ITS INJECTED! So think of it as muscle cell proliferation, or even the splitting of the cell so 1 becomes 2… That’s why its perfect on cycle when you get increased muscle cell growth too. But why is IGF better than HGH? The reason being is HGH causes IGF levels to rise in the liver first, then then the muscle, Whereas IGF-LR3 causes localized IGF levels to rocket.


Guys also use it to help kep their gains during post cycle with pct meds like clomid, nolvadex, hcg etc.... but its great with your cycle!

we have it here at www.musclechemadvancedsupps.com if you decide to give it a go! it truly is amazing

Awesome, I'm gunna run that on my next cycle then. Plan on starting in 3 weeks from now. Do you site inject or just subQ as with hgh ? And for a lean mass cycle what would be better for results in keeping gains test/primo or test/npp ?

Sorry for bombarding you with questions

I run igf IM, both pre and post work out. I usually inject in the muscle I'm working out. The pump is addictive! New research shows it may work better post workout but it's hard to let go of those pumps. Great questions brother, keep it coming!

- - - Updated - - -

Ohh .... I'm running test pp and NPP currently now. I have not ran primo, so not too sure but someone here will know.

d12hazz said:

I run igf IM, both pre and post work out. I usually inject in the muscle I'm working out. The pump is addictive! New research shows it may work better post workout but it's hard to let go of those pumps. Great questions brother, keep it coming!

- - - Updated - - -

Ohh .... I'm running test pp and NPP currently now. I have not ran primo, so not too sure but someone here will know.

Click to expand...

Hows the NPP treating you ? Have you run it prior to this cycle ?