GBL and GABA products

What's the scoop on these? Back in the day... GHB was my jam. Then there was GBL like Revivarent and Renutrient which I liked even better, but like all things that work without a script and thousands of dollars in medical insurance it was outlawed by our awesome Govt. Is there anything out there that you guys know about that's legit. GHB is hard to come by and quality is hit or miss... but man that stuff makes me sleep like I've never slept before.. it makes sex amazing... and the next day I feel like I've been reborn. I've heard of something new and Silk and I tried it out, but before talking about it is there anything you guys are hearing about??

bro i use to love sex on GHB! crazy good animal sex! I have also used 1,4 butendiol which is what was left over after the GHB ban, and its much easier to come by, or at least it was. I havent done or seen that shit in over 13 years lol,

pretty sure you can buy 1,4 butendiol online. it works pretty good

I have an assload of gabapentin I don't take lol should I be getting ripped on these for the gainz?

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Presser said:

bro i use to love sex on GHB! crazy good animal sex! I have also used 1,4 butendiol which is what was left over after the GHB ban, and its much easier to come by, or at least it was. I havent done or seen that shit in over 13 years lol,

pretty sure you can buy 1,4 butendiol online. it works pretty good

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Really? The thing we bought is called Somatomax... it has 4 amino 3 phenylbuteric acid and gamma aminobutyric acid.. L dopa.. some other stuff... it's eehhh... it's not really worth it in my opinion...

Also this stuff isn't a performance enhancer or any of that... back in the day when I was taking GHB all day I was brutally strong and bone shredded though... I'm not ready to say it was because of all the GHB... but....

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How is the 1, 4 butendiol??? Similiar feeling?

Presser said:

bro i use to love sex on GHB! crazy good animal sex! I have also used 1,4 butendiol which is what was left over after the GHB ban, and its much easier to come by, or at least it was. I havent done or seen that shit in over 13 years lol,

pretty sure you can buy 1,4 butendiol online. it works pretty good

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It's a good thing you're out of that game. 1, 4 butendiol is a scheduled analog / precursor... you are less likely to spend time in prison for murder than for that stuff... literally... in Florida especially there are agencies that advertise that shit for sale and then kick in your door... my tax dollars at work... my buddy said I am less likely to be bothered slamming lines on the bar at Applebee's than even talking about that stuff... good god I hate our bullshit "war on drugs"...

It's hilarious to me that it was spun like someone could put that in your drink and you not taste it... bullshit... some one made a name for themselves outlawing another resource for those that don't want to partake in alcohol or had problems sleeping or sexually... it's all bullshit

The Dude said:

It's a good thing you're out of that game. 1, 4 butendiol is a scheduled analog / precursor... you are less likely to spend time in prison for murder than for that stuff... literally... in Florida especially there are agencies that advertise that shit for sale and then kick in your door... my tax dollars at work... my buddy said I am less likely to be bothered slamming lines on the bar at Applebee's than even talking about that stuff... good god I hate our bullshit "war on drugs"...

It's hilarious to me that it was spun like someone could put that in your drink and you not taste it... bullshit... some one made a name for themselves outlawing another resource for those that don't want to partake in alcohol or had problems sleeping or sexually... it's all bullshit

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well shows how much i know lol, and yeah man im going back well over a decade so i dont fucking know, but i have said this before, i think GHB needed to be outlawed and doors kicked in, as i use to go clubbing a lot, i mean i was a party guy me and my wife, and well i seen many chicks fall out on GHB and many guys take advantage of the situation, and i seen a friend of ours fall out on it at an after party and the guys swarmed to her like flys on shit, and we had to carry her out of there before the dirtbags could rape the poor girl!

It was bad stuff man, considering females and males were out so cold you could do anything to them, i mean anything!

So while i like dit and enjoyed it for bodybuilding and staying lean, and it made me hungry and helped me eat well, and sex was awsome on it, i have to say the positives dont out weigh the negatives for me honestly, and its not the law or cops who fucked it up for everyone, its the dirt bags who raped women who fell out on the shit.

I see The Dude's pov, but I gotta agree with Presser on this one. It needs to stay off the streets. As much as I LOVE ghb for so many reasons *sigh* it's way too easy for the bad guys out there to take advantage of girls in their drunken state. As much as I hate to admit it, in my younger days, there would've been some easy opportunities for guys to slip something in my drink and I wouldn't have known the difference, even with the change of taste. Good girls have their not so good nights and I'd hate for something terrible to happen to anyone. Thank God nothing ever happened to me, but I have a little sister in her 20's that I think about... I'd die if something happened to her. Like I said, with GHB, it's just too easy. I know what The Dude means and where he's coming from so I don't want my rant to make it sound like he's naïve or insensitive to the fact, but he's also DEFINITELY not the type of guy who would even think of preying over the vulnerable "trashed" girl at the bar. Secondly, guys don't worry about being raped like women do. Yes, I know right now you guys are reading this and making jokes about how you WISH a woman would, lol... and I get it, but my point is, guys don't go out with their buddy's on the weekend and have to "keep an eye" on them (or their drinks) when they're flirting with a new girl cause rape is just not something you all were brought up having to worry about.

Wow...I didn't mean to go on this little rant, lol! When I think of GHB I just think of how much I like it, I never really took the time to think of how one little cap could change someone's life for the worst. Anyway, jmo

Presser said:

well shows how much i know lol, and yeah man im going back well over a decade so i dont fucking know, but i have said this before, i think GHB needed to be outlawed and doors kicked in, as i use to go clubbing a lot, i mean i was a party guy me and my wife, and well i seen many chicks fall out on GHB and many guys take advantage of the situation, and i seen a friend of ours fall out on it at an after party and the guys swarmed to her like flys on shit, and we had to carry her out of there before the dirtbags could rape the poor girl!

It was bad stuff man, considering females and males were out so cold you could do anything to them, i mean anything!

So while i like dit and enjoyed it for bodybuilding and staying lean, and it made me hungry and helped me eat well, and sex was awsome on it, i have to say the positives dont out weigh the negatives for me honestly, and its not the law or cops who fucked it up for everyone, its the dirt bags who raped women who fell out on the shit.

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Well... I can't say I disagree with anything you've said. Quite frankly I think the death penalty should be on the table for Rape. I don't mean the questionable ones... but some cases are just obvious.. and those fucks should be put to death... those shit bags would think twice about raping chicks if they knew the death penalty was an option. I would eagerly beat someone brutally should I walk in on something like that.. that just disgusts and infuriates me like very little else. I've worked the bullshit rape cases... and they are pretty obviously bullshit from the start... these programs you see on TV do not accurately present many of the cases... because that's not sensational enough...

ya know i never really looked at it or really thought about it how it would feel going out clubbing as a female, but no we guys do not have to worry about girls slipping us a rape drug, or worry where our buddy went incase he gets preyed upon , lol, sounds funny but man women have it coming at them from all angles when they go out for a night on the town!

I was as a bar with my buddies down the shore, and some girls and a group of new york dudes came into bar and were hitting on the gals, long story short, i slept with one of the chicks we were with at the bar, and she was gone when i woke in the morning, she apparently was so sick and out of it she went to hospital and they found roofies in her system, everyone knew right away it was the guys from new york, one of those dirt bags slipped shit in her drink, or maybe bought her a drink, idk how they did it but everyone knew it was them, anyhow, im the one who slept with her that night, and if she didnt know me, and that happened, she would have thought i was the one who slipped her shit! crazy shit man!

So yeah no good can come from this type of shit!

Back in my single days my roommate and I both had the day off so we decided to run some errands together. When we got home we found the house had been broken into. We called the police and I chalked it up to neighborhood kids or someone looking for a quick buck since it occurred during the day. Anyway, fast forward a few days and we get a call from a Detective who said they recovered some of our property AND arrested the guy! Great, we're thinking. However, the backstory was not so great. In fact really scary. At some point this guy followed a girl home from a bar we frequented since it was close to our home. He raped her and left her for dead. When they finally caught him they found a bunch of property indicating he'd done some burglaries as well. They asked him if he remembered where he got our property from and he said something along the lines of "yes, I saw their pictures. They were pretty girls"...sooo creepy that he remembered us! It's one thing to think some kid did it, but a rapist?!? And what if we were home!? God was looking out for us that day.

Another time, I went out with that same friend to a bar and again, since we were roommates we of course drove together. We met a group of friends there, but she and I kinda did our own thing since she was single. Anyway, when it was time to go we couldn't drive so one of our guy friends drove my car to take us home while his group followed to then take him home. (And no they weren't "helping" us just to continue the party at our place, lol... I know what some of you are thinking These guys were like big brothers to us. Good guys.) Sooo my sober guy friend who was driving my car notices a strange car following us. He keeps an eye on it and sure enough it's stays behind us. He calls his friends in the other car to let them know, plus he's got his gun on him. We end up parking in the neighborhood, but not in front of our house for obvious reasons and sure enough the car parks too. It was just as you all had guessed, some guys thinking we'd left alone so they decided to follow us home. I didn't even recognize them so I'm not even sure that my friend was "talking" to them, not that it matters. And they surely weren't invited! The creepy guys were quite shocked when they saw my guy friend get out of my car and by now the second carload of our friends pulled up. All he did was show them his gun and they left and that was that. No yelling, no scene... Nothing. Again, God was looking out for us.

what is GHB used for in regards to bodybuilding? (I know I should've research and found the answer)

nutpuncher said:

what is GHB used for in regards to bodybuilding? (I know I should've research and found the answer)

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It was marketed as a GH releaser... which it is... and it's a sleep aid. It's a prescription drug now for narcolepsy. Some progressive Dr's also prescribe it for bad insomnia. At one point it was available at GNC...

The GHB I remember was clear and had bubbles suspended in it like jello but it was liquid. You could drink a bottle cap of it then have a few beers and it had a MDMA like effect on you. Not near as good as MDMA but still a good euphoric feeling. My first time I tried it a stripper gave it to me then took me home and raped me but she found out quickly you can't rape the willing.

Masher59 said:

The GHB I remember was clear and had bubbles suspended in it like jello but it was liquid. You could drink a bottle cap of it then have a few beers and it had a MDMA like effect on you. Not near as good as MDMA but still a good euphoric feeling. My first time I tried it a stripper gave it to me then took me home and raped me but she found out quickly you can't rape the willing.

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uhhh, yuck! i know that thicker shit your talking about, it was nasty and would eat away at any plastic bottle it was in lol, GNC sold Verve or renutrient some shit like that, they use to give samples of it out at trade shows or at booths at he Arnold expo lmao, crazy right

Presser said:

uhhh, yuck! i know that thicker shit your talking about, it was nasty and would eat away at any plastic bottle it was in lol, GNC sold Verve or renutrient some shit like that, they use to give samples of it out at trade shows or at booths at he Arnold expo lmao, crazy right

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Yup I know quite a few people that drank too many beers on it over dosed and it almost killed them.

yeah i seen people getting pulled out of the clubs from it and ecstacy over doses on memorial weekend donw the jersey shore, it actually made national news then a documentary and shit lol,

Well... the Somatomax was a bust... as far as causing the GHB like effects. I sleep really well when I take it, but there are alot of things that work for sleep that are cheaper. Like phenibut