Oral Recommendation Between Cycles

Hi all,

I've gone through PCT and lost a bit of weight. I want to get leaner, but clearly need to build more muscle mass on my frame to look the size I want to look (men's physique type look, nothing bigger). My training and diet are on check but I'm unsure what Pharmacom product to take. I don't want to jump back on injectables just yet, want to give my body a bit of a rest from that as scar tissue has built up. My previous cycle was some test/tren/mast which worked well and burnt out a good amount of the stubborn stomach fat.

I was thinking some T bol of Anavar but am not 100% sure.

I'm 28 yo, 6 foot, 86-87kg ish off cycle. 2.4k calories maintenance (office job so not a super fast metabolism), having about 200g carb/protein (all good sources) and 70g fat at the moment. I don't need to lift super heavy weight to grow, so high strength isn't a must here, just something to help me build the muscle and continue lowering the fat. I do retain water and do get a little acne and increased hair growth, but no other side effects in general.

Thanks in advance!

I’d go with anavar between the two if it’s between cycle maintenance so to speak.

Presser said:

I’d go with anavar between the two if it’s between cycle maintenance so to speak.

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Also trying to add some muscle and lower the fat...
Pharmacom dont call anavar as anavar right? Any recommendation on dosage?

Trt dose sarms, add in some t3

Bobbo123 said:

Trt dose sarms, add in some t3

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Is TRT a mix sold on Pharmacom? Dosage?

TRT is a reference to "testosterone replacement therapy" so a dose used for that. Sadly, there really isn't a dosage defined for SARMs so you're going to have to make a determination on that one on your own based on how you react to them IF you're going to use them.

I agree with Presser on using anavar as a bridge (also called "var" for short or its clinical name oxandrolone). Theoretically, you'd want at least 40-60mg/day considering your stats. If you're looking for fat loss without muscle loss, IGF would be a very good idea possibly about 40-60mcg/day and possibly a low dose of T3, maybe 10-20mcg/day. Any more T3 than that will likely cause muscle loss as well considering your stats and food intake since it can catabolize muscle.

I would say anavar like presser. Mostly because it will raise collagen synthesis, this will make your tendons and ligaments stronger.
Testosterone does the opposite.

thx said:

I would say anavar like presser. Mostly because it will raise collagen synthesis, this will make your tendons and ligaments stronger.
Testosterone does the opposite.

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Will it help me still gain mass and/or strength so I gain mass? Or mainly lean me up. I don't want to become massively smaller hence I ask. Never use anavar before hence curious.
Only ever used clen (which barely worked apart from during workout where i felt like i would have a heart attack lol) and t3/t4 (did help me loose stomach fat, but a very slow process).
I really need to pack on some extra muscle though.

hopesanddreams said:

Will it help me still gain mass and/or strength so I gain mass? Or mainly lean me up. I don't want to become massively smaller hence I ask. Never use anavar before hence curious.
Only ever used clen (which barely worked apart from during workout where i felt like i would have a heart attack lol) and t3/t4 (did help me loose stomach fat, but a very slow process).
I really need to pack on some extra muscle though.

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anavar will aid in better protein synthesis, whether you can add mass, or lean out is totally up to what you eat and how you train. The anavar as with most steroids can be taken while cutting or bulking.

So your not going to get huge on anavar by any stretch of the imagination.

Presser said:

anavar will aid in better protein synthesis, whether you can add mass, or lean out is totally up to what you eat and how you train. The anavar as with most steroids can be taken while cutting or bulking.

So your not going to get huge on anavar by any stretch of the imagination.

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Appreciated - thanks! Do you recommend the T3 or Arimidex before sleeping still or the IGF or just nothing but diet/workout and anavar?

Depends on dosage and your diet. You will probably gain some weight (not much) you will get some quality gains!

Arimidex is not needed. If you feel like clen messes with your heart don't take it. If you don't take clen there is no need for t3.
If you want to loose bodyfat just do some more cardio and keep your diet in check.

Take at least 60mg/ed. Don't forget your liverprotection. Orals will mess up your appetite and usually it's because your liver.

Keep it simple bro!

thx said:

Depends on dosage and your diet. You will probably gain some weight (not much) you will get some quality gains!

Arimidex is not needed. If you feel like clen messes with your heart don't take it. If you don't take clen there is no need for t3.
If you want to loose bodyfat just do some more cardio and keep your diet in check.

Take at least 60mg/ed. Don't forget your liverprotection. Orals will mess up your appetite and usually it's because your liver.

Keep it simple bro!

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Are my macros above reasonable? More protein needed?

hopesanddreams said:

Are my macros above reasonable? More protein needed?

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Your macros ( you could add more protien, but if you take anavar it will do its magic without super high protein amounts) look fine as long as your carbs are from good sources. Be sure to eat lots of veggies. "Big Ass" salads are a must when trying to loose weight.

IGF-1 lr3 isn’t really something I think you personally would benefit from at the moment. Keep it simple and learn as you go regarding anything you plan to use next.

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Your macros ( you could add more protien, but if you take anavar it will do its magic without super high protein amounts) look fine as long as your carbs are from good sources. Be sure to eat lots of veggies. "Big Ass" salads are a must when trying to loose weight.

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Yes oats, fruit/veg, lentils, seeds etc.

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Are my macros above reasonable? More protein needed?

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Looks good bro!
Spread that out on 6 meals. You can adjust your macros later if you want to gain weight or loose weight.
Don't forget to get some liverprotection. Orals can kill your appetite.