Maj7900
New member
For us guys that cycle on and off PCT or post cycle therapy can be tough. With symptoms that are downright depressing.
Loss of gains
Lack of Libido
Fatigue
Depression
General loss of well being
This can be avoided but timing is key and determination and drive are the tools you need other than the supplements you take. Many of the vets here are TRT and some are not. Some can get bloods pulled and some can’t. Some can handle Clomid and others can’t so there’s one way to do it. There are guidelines to start by and adjust as your body reacts.
Time on = time off. This is the oldest rule in the book but for people in Places that can not get bloods without a doctor release it’s a solid approach still. Time on cycle plus PCT = time off
For people that can get tested keep in mind that a true reading will only come not only after esters have cleared but also after PCT support drugs as well. Clomid half life of 14ish days and the same for nolvadex as well so these will need to clear as well.
So after last pin of AAS you can’t expect to get an accurate reading until 9 or so weeks. Even then I do test every two weeks to watch the numbers. Testing at the same time of the day and on the same day of the week will show if natural homeostasis has occurred.
Here’s my PCT layout
I’ve been running Blue Tops GH (Mecca)through this cycle and will continue until maybe winter time.
HCG (also Mecca)is ran at 500iu eod 6 weeks prior to last pin then continued until esters have cleared and for me this should be about 21 days after last pin of test. Some say 250iu is enough but all agree that over stimulation can cause desensitization of the Testees.
Clomid and nolvadex is started two weeks after last pin and run for 4 weeks at this amount
Clomid 50/20/20/10 (some say 50/50/20/20 but that’s not for me and it may be best for you but you’ll have to find this out for yourself)
Nolvadex. 40/40/20/20 (if you’ve been running nolva on cycle for gyno defense then dropping it down to 20mg a day on PCT is fine unless you are still seeing symptoms of gyno)
Continued AI is needed as well. If your body has too much E2 (5 to 1 ratio of test to estrogen is optimal) then you will get NO signals from the pituitary gland to produce test so it’s very important to have it controlled.
You can add Mecca root or test booster if you like (I feel they are a waste of money and the best test boosters is called heavy squats and deads) there’s a ton of things like this you can add that can be found at any vitamin store.
This is my plan and all my products are of top quality because in bodybuilding or fitness is not an area to short cut your gainz
Team MeccaGear!
Loss of gains
Lack of Libido
Fatigue
Depression
General loss of well being
This can be avoided but timing is key and determination and drive are the tools you need other than the supplements you take. Many of the vets here are TRT and some are not. Some can get bloods pulled and some can’t. Some can handle Clomid and others can’t so there’s one way to do it. There are guidelines to start by and adjust as your body reacts.
Time on = time off. This is the oldest rule in the book but for people in Places that can not get bloods without a doctor release it’s a solid approach still. Time on cycle plus PCT = time off
For people that can get tested keep in mind that a true reading will only come not only after esters have cleared but also after PCT support drugs as well. Clomid half life of 14ish days and the same for nolvadex as well so these will need to clear as well.
So after last pin of AAS you can’t expect to get an accurate reading until 9 or so weeks. Even then I do test every two weeks to watch the numbers. Testing at the same time of the day and on the same day of the week will show if natural homeostasis has occurred.
Here’s my PCT layout
I’ve been running Blue Tops GH (Mecca)through this cycle and will continue until maybe winter time.
HCG (also Mecca)is ran at 500iu eod 6 weeks prior to last pin then continued until esters have cleared and for me this should be about 21 days after last pin of test. Some say 250iu is enough but all agree that over stimulation can cause desensitization of the Testees.
Clomid and nolvadex is started two weeks after last pin and run for 4 weeks at this amount
Clomid 50/20/20/10 (some say 50/50/20/20 but that’s not for me and it may be best for you but you’ll have to find this out for yourself)
Nolvadex. 40/40/20/20 (if you’ve been running nolva on cycle for gyno defense then dropping it down to 20mg a day on PCT is fine unless you are still seeing symptoms of gyno)
Continued AI is needed as well. If your body has too much E2 (5 to 1 ratio of test to estrogen is optimal) then you will get NO signals from the pituitary gland to produce test so it’s very important to have it controlled.
You can add Mecca root or test booster if you like (I feel they are a waste of money and the best test boosters is called heavy squats and deads) there’s a ton of things like this you can add that can be found at any vitamin store.
This is my plan and all my products are of top quality because in bodybuilding or fitness is not an area to short cut your gainz
Team MeccaGear!
