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    Masteron as an Anti-Estrogen?

    “Dromostanolone has some reputation for anti-estrogenic activity, but in actuality this effect is fairly subtle. If due to use of aromatizing steroids a steroid cycle would produce substantially excessive levels of estrogen, adding Masteron to the cycle will not fix that. Instead, an anti-aromatase such as letrozole or anastrozole should be used. However, where only a moderate amount of aromatizing steroid is being used, Masteron can in many instances be sufficient as the sole anti-estrogenic agent.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spongebob9909 View Post
    “Dromostanolone has some reputation for anti-estrogenic activity, but in actuality this effect is fairly subtle. If due to use of aromatizing steroids a steroid cycle would produce substantially excessive levels of estrogen, adding Masteron to the cycle will not fix that. Instead, an anti-aromatase such as letrozole or anastrozole should be used. However, where only a moderate amount of aromatizing steroid is being used, Masteron can in many instances be sufficient as the sole anti-estrogenic agent.”

    Yes or No?????????
    Yes sir and No sir!!!!

    Some people like myself can use test 750mg wk and not need anything but OTC anti estro supps or proviron and mast or one or other sufficient!!!

    If I stack it's usually mast.

    If i add 19nor mast included.

    And most of time I used only nolva at 10mg a day with proviron or mast or both.

    I normally no longer run bulkers any more much though, I don't consider I do anyway!!

    I know this, I had great lipids for years running mast almost year round or Proviron even on TRT.
    I ran a hefty lean bulk and cut with some Anadrol and tren in cut.
    I was in a comp transformation type thing, I used Adex and it Aromasin on low side of pretty much standard and my LDL was high 50 points and my HDL was at its normally 20s.

    I also stopped t3 and t4 around 14 days only before bloods though and hypothyroid will flaw test due to LDL rising until thyroid recovers.

    I had fitness test for jobs with all the monitors on under load so I was forced or felt forced to stay on t3 and t4 to not throw that off.
    Fitness test were geat and jobs fell thru anyway and last fit test was after stopping t3 and t4 and that one my bp and pulse were weird.

    Hope i didn't get off subject but wanted to be honest about whole scenario.
    I also didn't have enough time to recover before blood and contest judge date.
    Only 4 weeks at most.
    TSH and free t4 were tested so t3 and t4 Had to be dumped.....

    My free t4 was low and TSH low range but on hgh I expected that.....

    Anyway I am leaving orals, tren and Ai's
    alone for a bit.
    Using way way less mast then switching to low proviron and low Nolva with 0.5mg adex 2x a wk in my MINI BLAST
    Using just
    Trt cyp 200mg wk
    Prop 50mg MWF
    trest ace 25mg MWF
    Mast around 400 wk
    Primo 400wk
    Deca 300wk
    Dropping mast soon and switching to proviron 50mg a day
    Will drop prop or trest or go back and forth
    Also using 10mg nolva a day
    May lower to 5mg a day
    Adex 0.5mg 2x wk
    .5mg cabar 2xwk
    Hgh 5iu a day
    MT2 250mcg 3x wk

    I will lower deca if see necessary or switch to NPP but low

    NO T3 OR T4 YET

    Testing lipids and TSH with Free t3 and t4 in a month

    May check estro but prolly not.....
    May lower cabar to .25mg 2x wk

    I feel good atm and getting all health signs back I do lots of cardio so Gotta figure out culprit or just get health or lipids back.....

    I said alot but my reasoning with last bloods had to be stated....
    Sorry for long post really I been off boards surprise I even posted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Yes sir and No sir!!!!

    Some people like myself can use test 750mg wk and not need anything but OTC anti estro supps or proviron and mast or one or other sufficient!!!

    If I stack it's usually mast.

    If i add 19nor mast included.

    And most of time I used only nolva at 10mg a day with proviron or mast or both.

    I normally no longer run bulkers any more much though, I don't consider I do anyway!!

    I know this, I had great lipids for years running mast almost year round or Proviron even on TRT.
    I ran a hefty lean bulk and cut with some Anadrol and tren in cut.
    I was in a comp transformation type thing, I used Adex and it Aromasin on low side of pretty much standard and my LDL was high 50 points and my HDL was at its normally 20s.

    I also stopped t3 and t4 around 14 days only before bloods though and hypothyroid will flaw test due to LDL rising until thyroid recovers.

    I had fitness test for jobs with all the monitors on under load so I was forced or felt forced to stay on t3 and t4 to not throw that off.
    Fitness test were geat and jobs fell thru anyway and last fit test was after stopping t3 and t4 and that one my bp and pulse were weird.

    Hope i didn't get off subject but wanted to be honest about whole scenario.
    I also didn't have enough time to recover before blood and contest judge date.
    Only 4 weeks at most.
    TSH and free t4 were tested so t3 and t4 Had to be dumped.....

    My free t4 was low and TSH low range but on hgh I expected that.....

    Anyway I am leaving orals, tren and Ai's
    alone for a bit.
    Using way way less mast then switching to low proviron and low Nolva with 0.5mg adex 2x a wk in my MINI BLAST
    Using just
    Trt cyp 200mg wk
    Prop 50mg MWF
    trest ace 25mg MWF
    Mast around 400 wk
    Primo 400wk
    Deca 300wk
    Dropping mast soon and switching to proviron 50mg a day
    Will drop prop or trest or go back and forth
    Also using 10mg nolva a day
    May lower to 5mg a day
    Adex 0.5mg 2x wk
    .5mg cabar 2xwk
    Hgh 5iu a day
    MT2 250mcg 3x wk

    I will lower deca if see necessary or switch to NPP but low

    NO T3 OR T4 YET

    Testing lipids and TSH with Free t3 and t4 in a month

    May check estro but prolly not.....
    May lower cabar to .25mg 2x wk

    I feel good atm and getting all health signs back I do lots of cardio so Gotta figure out culprit or just get health or lipids back.....

    I said alot but my reasoning with last bloods had to be stated....
    Sorry for long post really I been off boards surprise I even posted

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    lol, good God man thats quite a response lol. I like!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    lol, good God man thats quite a response lol. I like!
    Lmao!!!
    I went on to edit but took too long so timed out and it was late!!

    Glad to see u Daddio!!!Masteron as an Anti-Estrogen?Masteron as an Anti-Estrogen?Masteron as an Anti-Estrogen?

    Things just been rough in life so just doing gym been off boards but wanna share experience etc etc with guys and learn some too...

    But really mast for an AI???
    It's sure helps with bloat but may not be suffient depending on stack and how much one aromatases and how one responds to mast....

    I use it for bloat control and adrogenic binding, I stay much leaner with androgen binding in mix.

    @Presser I haven't spoken to a soul except job related or family I had to try u guys, conversations with self get old!!

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    ahhh that explains the duchaine like response lmao
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    or for our younger readers, a llewellyn like response, lol maybe that is too old a name to throw out there to idk lol
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