Dbol reaction help

H

hopesanddreams

New member
I was on 1.5ml test per week (test E/300mg) split into 2 doses. Was fine.

Started dbol (20mg x 2 tablets a day, spread out) and started getting ‘wipe outs’ ie sleeping but feeling exhausted (not sleepy but like someone sucked out all my energy) when I wake up to the point that I’ve had my breakfast and fallen asleep again for 3-4 hours.

I did increase the Aromasin dose which helped a little but now I’m getting other sides eg extremely delayed cumming, general loss of libido, etc.

Diet is still on check, I sleep fine in general, training is fine also.
 
hopesanddreams said:
I was on 1.5ml test per week (test E/300mg) split into 2 doses. Was fine.

Started dbol (20mg x 2 tablets a day, spread out) and started getting ‘wipe outs’ ie sleeping but feeling exhausted (not sleepy but like someone sucked out all my energy) when I wake up to the point that I’ve had my breakfast and fallen asleep again for 3-4 hours.

I did increase the Aromasin dose which helped a little but now I’m getting other sides eg extremely delayed cumming, general loss of libido, etc.

Diet is still on check, I sleep fine in general, training is fine also.
Click to expand...
Your estro f8cked up!!!
I have sex alot on gear. The loss of feeling and sensitivity while doing it has to do with too much sex and estro either too high or too low!!

When my balls sacking estro high
When i am neutered test high estro good!!

Are u waking up with woods??

U using 300 or 600 test week?

Lethergy can come from liver stress some more sensitive! And from high or low estro.
When i can't cum and go limp my radio messed up.

Try aromasin at Lower dose use it 2x on week and see where things get better.
Or switch to adex 0.5mg 2x see where u at.

Aromasin works better eod but use the way is said to see if things clear in one direction or other.

Sounds like estro got high then u lowered too much

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
 
Test is 300.
I increased AI but having issues more. :(
Should I just stop dbol entirely?

I used to get morning wood when just on test but since I started dbol I get nothing. Libido is always low though I don’t know why (on cycle this year it’s low I don’t mean generally).
 
Sounds like its an estro issues for sure. If you get blood work I would test that for sure.
 
hopesanddreams said:
Test is 300.
I increased AI but having issues more. :(
Should I just stop dbol entirely?

I used to get morning wood when just on test but since I started dbol I get nothing. Libido is always low though I don’t know why (on cycle this year it’s low I don’t mean generally).
Click to expand...
How much AI?
Aromasin at what dose and frequency??
How long on dbol??

Let's get on right track.
I think u need to lower AI?
It's possible your issues were just glycogen stores loading on muscle and not really Estro!
Your test 300 wk pretty low for cycle
AND dbol is what? 20mg 2x day?

I say raise test to 500-600wk use dbol pre-workout only at 20mg but dbol bloats me i don't have no use for it!

To get hard lean quality muscle more important although a bulk is good start.

If u just got on test e or c it will take 4 weeks to build and 300mg wk not much to build on!!!

Give more info in questions asked and I give u answer of my thoughts

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
 
Muscle mechanic said:
How much AI?
Aromasin at what dose and frequency??
How long on dbol??

Let's get on right track.
I think u need to lower AI?
It's possible your issues were just glycogen stores loading on muscle and not really Estro!
Your test 300 wk pretty low for cycle
AND dbol is what? 20mg 2x day?

I say raise test to 500-600wk use dbol pre-workout only at 20mg but dbol bloats me i don't have no use for it!

To get hard lean quality muscle more important although a bulk is good start.

If u just got on test e or c it will take 4 weeks to build and 300mg wk not much to build on!!!

Give more info in questions asked and I give u answer of my thoughts

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
Click to expand...

I have 12.5mg aromasin in the morning and then again before sleeping.
DBOL I have been taking for 2.5 weeks now, 3 tablets a day (60mg total) spread out. Was 40mg for the first half week to ease in.
I am eating a clean diet for ages before I even started cycle also. Maybe you are right though. But it is odd that I feel ill only 3 weeks after dbol started.
I have stopped dbol yesterday still feel like $hit.
I have been on test 6 weeks now...
Yea I told my PT lean muscle is best and I am in no rush. I did have dbol before did not have issues. This is the first time I had this extreme reaction.
 
hopesanddreams said:
I have 12.5mg aromasin in the morning and then again before sleeping.
DBOL I have been taking for 2.5 weeks now, 3 tablets a day (60mg total) spread out. Was 40mg for the first half week to ease in.
I am eating a clean diet for ages before I even started cycle also. Maybe you are right though. But it is odd that I feel ill only 3 weeks after dbol started.
I have stopped dbol yesterday still feel like $hit.
I have been on test 6 weeks now...
Yea I told my PT lean muscle is best and I am in no rush. I did have dbol before did not have issues. This is the first time I had this extreme reaction.
Click to expand...
Take Aromasin at 12.5 mg every other day at night only.
U can get away with 6.25 eod

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
 
hopesanddreams said:
I have 12.5mg aromasin in the morning and then again before sleeping.
DBOL I have been taking for 2.5 weeks now, 3 tablets a day (60mg total) spread out. Was 40mg for the first half week to ease in.
I am eating a clean diet for ages before I even started cycle also. Maybe you are right though. But it is odd that I feel ill only 3 weeks after dbol started.
I have stopped dbol yesterday still feel like $hit.
I have been on test 6 weeks now...
Yea I told my PT lean muscle is best and I am in no rush. I did have dbol before did not have issues. This is the first time I had this extreme reaction.
Click to expand...
Also want to say I used gear total of 20 years but basically stayed on or cruised for past 12 for most part and haven't been off at all since last kid. TRT blast and cruise now!!!
What I wanna say is 40-50mg D-Bol most I ever used and only for a week and had to lower because of water and weight gain too much!!!
Most dbol I can use is 20-30mg max and I will bloat.
No matter my diet and no matter AI dose other functions change in our body's some more than others and aldosterone being raised will retain fluids!!

The way I see it is this. If i am Gonna bulk then enough food has to be there and carbs needed!!
If i will lean bulk to hold muscle gain some and lose fat slowly and diet in check
If i cut diet in check!!

But I don't bulk anymore and if I do it's with other things besides Dbol.

Some like dbol but I don't see me ever using it again for any reason!
It can be a tool but it can convert alot if estro!!
My approach is block estro with Nolva 20mg a day and I use masterone and Proviron for added estro control so I don't crash my estro!! I use around 0.5mg adex 2x wk unless I am on a comp cut then eod 0.5mg instead.

Estro good for us just not too much and the truth is levels in lab work with in ranges are for normal testosterone levels on ranges. Our ratio of estro I believe needs to be above ranges and according to testosterone levels.

If my testosterone is 5000 total then my estro is fine at 90 if I am not having other symtoms or any symptoms.
If i have symptoms of high estro and it's out of range and test is 5000 then I need to lower till I feel best and can only take note of those ranges what I was taking and where I had symptoms and felt good.

I know an endo and he told me he don't treat a # with hormones especially, he treats a patient and where they feel best according to #'s as a reference. He also told me that there is a much more important ratio that is between test and free test to estro and that is changed when we give way more testosterone.


Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
 
Muscle mechanic said:
Also want to say I used gear total of 20 years but basically stayed on or cruised for past 12 for most part and haven't been off at all since last kid. TRT blast and cruise now!!!
What I wanna say is 40-50mg D-Bol most I ever used and only for a week and had to lower because of water and weight gain too much!!!
Most dbol I can use is 20-30mg max and I will bloat.
No matter my diet and no matter AI dose other functions change in our body's some more than others and aldosterone being raised will retain fluids!!

The way I see it is this. If i am Gonna bulk then enough food has to be there and carbs needed!!
If i will lean bulk to hold muscle gain some and lose fat slowly and diet in check
If i cut diet in check!!

But I don't bulk anymore and if I do it's with other things besides Dbol.

Some like dbol but I don't see me ever using it again for any reason!
It can be a tool but it can convert alot if estro!!
My approach is block estro with Nolva 20mg a day and I use masterone and Proviron for added estro control so I don't crash my estro!! I use around 0.5mg adex 2x wk unless I am on a comp cut then eod 0.5mg instead.

Estro good for us just not too much and the truth is levels in lab work with in ranges are for normal testosterone levels on ranges. Our ratio of estro I believe needs to be above ranges and according to testosterone levels.

If my testosterone is 5000 total then my estro is fine at 90 if I am not having other symtoms or any symptoms.
If i have symptoms of high estro and it's out of range and test is 5000 then I need to lower till I feel best and can only take note of those ranges what I was taking and where I had symptoms and felt good.

I know an endo and he told me he don't treat a # with hormones especially, he treats a patient and where they feel best according to #'s as a reference. He also told me that there is a much more important ratio that is between test and free test to estro and that is changed when we give way more testosterone.


Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Typo block estro with Nolva 10mg a day
On light stuff I still use 20mg at once every 5 days

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
 
So I dropped the dbol on Monday.
At night my bladder was paining, went to the loo, after a few mins it was ok. I did up water intake to help clear the system...
These seem super strange side effects.
 
hopesanddreams said:
So I dropped the dbol on Monday.
At night my bladder was paining, went to the loo, after a few mins it was ok. I did up water intake to help clear the system...
These seem super strange side effects.
Click to expand...
Sometimes when u start certain gear I pee all night...

My prostate been ok PSA test.
But I had to pee in day like before leaving work take leak.
Then before home have to pull over and hardly get it out of pants!!
Cialis has helped with bladder emptying, prostate swelling

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Muscle Insider
The Morning Dose #10: Peptide Q&A, Stubborn Fat Loss, New Cholesterol Treatment
Replies
0
Views
111
Muscle Insider
Muscle Insider
Muscle Insider
Is TRT Safe? Benefits, Side Effects, & Possible Outcomes
Replies
0
Views
3K
Muscle Insider
Muscle Insider
Muscle Insider
The Morning Dose #26: 2024 Predictions, Fasting Research, and Recommended Health Resources
Replies
0
Views
83
Muscle Insider
Muscle Insider
Muscle Insider
How Long Does Ashwagandha Take To Work?
Replies
0
Views
52
Muscle Insider
Muscle Insider
M
Purity Source labs Avoid lost or stolen packs during X-mas (CURRENT SALE NOW AVOID THE DELAYS TODAY)
Replies
0
Views
217
Matt88
M
Back
Top