Test + anything, or just higher Test question?

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Chris288

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Hey guys been here long time haven't posted in forever. Got a quick question for the experienced users out there.

I have run 20 + cycles over the years with varied results (gonna be 43 this year) 5ft 9 245pounds currently.

I am on TRT and have been for 2 years. Keep a TRT dose of 300mg a week.

Wanting to add a little more this winter and got to thinking of a question I had years ago that I never asked.

Is it better to run say 1gram of test a week, or run 600mg of test + 400mg of Deca? You still have a total of 1gram a week, but does the synergy of the 2 products produce better results vs just using big bad ole Test?


I know it's always been advised to do both, but having used that cycle many years ago and to hear of so many test only cycles today with good gains I really dont know what is current today.


Thanks for the advice
 
I would run test/deca combo as long as you have access. Either way a gram of either choice will definitely do the trick!!

What kind of doctor did you find to let you run 300mg of T for TRT? Your test has to be off the charts...................20 years ago 300mg of test a week was a solid run all by itself!!
 
Chris288 said:
Hey guys been here long time haven't posted in forever. Got a quick question for the experienced users out there.

I have run 20 + cycles over the years with varied results (gonna be 43 this year) 5ft 9 245pounds currently.

I am on TRT and have been for 2 years. Keep a TRT dose of 300mg a week.

Wanting to add a little more this winter and got to thinking of a question I had years ago that I never asked.

Is it better to run say 1gram of test a week, or run 600mg of test + 400mg of Deca? You still have a total of 1gram a week, but does the synergy of the 2 products produce better results vs just using big bad ole Test?


I know it's always been advised to do both, but having used that cycle many years ago and to hear of so many test only cycles today with good gains I really dont know what is current today.


Thanks for the advice
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I get higher red blood hemoglobin build up with test alone over 600wk
And add on not as bad for myself.
Like test deca combo BUT I Gotta keep diet and hiit training with deca or I bloat!!
I use mast with deca and test and it helps alot but 600-700 mast a week an expense but worth it for myself to avoid bloat and fight deca dick!!

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Hey guys thanks for the advice. I go to Low T center. They are across the country.

Last labs were Total Test was 925 at that dose. I tried a couple Docs before, but they prescribed like 150mg a week.

Other than 300mg I take Anastrozole 2 half tabs a week.
 
Chris288 said:
Hey guys thanks for the advice. I go to Low T center. They are across the country.

Last labs were Total Test was 925 at that dose. I tried a couple Docs before, but they prescribed like 150mg a week.

Other than 300mg I take Anastrozole 2 half tabs a week.
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Well it looks like u need more test as I know some that do. I have seen a guy on 400 test cyp a week TRT with good high level #s. He said it took years for his body to metabolize it different I guess and need more for blood levels...

What I don't know is if u would need more gear at higher doses as well???
But see how u respond and go from there.


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Dam that’s a fantastic trt dosage ! I am prescribed 300mg testosterone cypionate every 10 to 14 days

i personally would use two different steroids instead of a gram of testosterone which is crazy high. That’s actually a young mans game there brutha! I can’t think of any reason why guys our age need to use a gram of testosterone per week aside from being a professional athlete

I’m guessing with you being 43 yrs old with 20+ steroid cycles under your belt then you likely are in good shape all the time and have already built your bodies foundation so two compounds for sure! I would do more anabolic less androgenic steroids, and as u said look for that synergy between compounds
 
Thanks again for the advice n responses. Yup Presser agree a lot changes in the 40's.

Much more cautious than I used to be :)

The 300mg keeps me just slightly under the legal limit, so for my body on TRT it works perfectly. Have another Dr that with prescribed HGH, but oh wow cant afford that. LOL
 
Chris288 said:
Thanks again for the advice n responses. Yup Presser agree a lot changes in the 40's.

Much more cautious than I used to be :)

The 300mg keeps me just slightly under the legal limit, so for my body on TRT it works perfectly. Have another Dr that with prescribed HGH, but oh wow cant afford that. LOL
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Get the script for the HGH then if you can find a good generic you are golden. Your legal and it doesn't cost a fortune.
 
WOW, Muscle Mechanic, Presser, Yellow Snow, Drtbear. That's like the Mt. Rushmore for this kind of info.
 
dpile said:
WOW, Muscle Mechanic, Presser, Yellow Snow, Drtbear. That's like the Mt. Rushmore for this kind of info.
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Lol MT. Rushmore is eroding and old , why can't we be a new cool hip landmark lol or like the fab four lol
 
dpile said:
Yes that is a better one. I'm sure I'm older that all of you. I wish I knew half as much.
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I would give away half my knowledge if I could give back half my lifetime, or at least the last 20 years lol and tell my 20 year old self to run like hell when you see the hot Spanish chick in the gym,

How old r you bro
 
52 this month. I just got "involved" about 2 yrs ago. Got a lot of great help on this site, and met some great people, muscle mechanic, mountain man, you, drtbear, just to name a few. You have been a big help with nolva bloat, anti-p liquid dex. You gave me a great deal. Thanks again. I grew up in south jersey (Millville) Played football, wrestling, baseball. lifted to some degree or another since I was very young. Just trying to keep the reaper off me.
 
dpile said:
Got a lot of great help on this site, and met some great people, muscle mechanic, mountain man, you, drtbear, just to name a few.
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Agreed. These are good people.

And this is why I love this board so much. The arrogance is nil and the knowledge is high.
 
I blast and cruise.
Keep in mind this works for me. These dosages are not recommended unless you have some time running gear. Running something like this in the beginning and it will most likely cause estro and prolactin issues and you will need Prami or caber.
I no longer need prami because I know how to manage my estro through experience and bloodwork. Blood donation as well.
Also with time I can now handle higher dosages with less AI.

I pin long ester EOD because it causes a buildup due to ester. More bang for the buck.

My typical blast is far lower. I run this once a year.
My sweet spot is: 12 wks
Deca Frontload 900mg/wk first 3 weeks.

Test E brewed 300mg/ml @ 390mg EOD (1.3ml)
Deca brewed 300mg/ml @ 210mg EOD (0.7ml)
12mg Aromasin EOD
10mg Cialis ED

Last 4 weeks
Drop Test E and Deca dosages both to 420mg/wk.
Add Tren A 80mg ED (First 5 days 100mg ED)

If I don't drop Test dosage, adding Tren at that dose will cause mild acne breakout on shoulders.
 
Plate Smacker said:
I blast and cruise.
Keep in mind this works for me. These dosages are not recommended unless you have some time running gear. Running something like this in the beginning and it will most likely cause estro and prolactin issues and you will need Prami or caber.
I no longer need prami because I know how to manage my estro through experience and bloodwork. Blood donation as well.
Also with time I can now handle higher dosages with less AI.

I pin long ester EOD because it causes a buildup due to ester. More bang for the buck.

My typical blast is far lower. I run this once a year.
My sweet spot is: 12 wks
Deca Frontload 900mg/wk first 3 weeks.

Test E brewed 300mg/ml @ 390mg EOD (1.3ml)
Deca brewed 300mg/ml @ 210mg EOD (0.7ml)
12mg Aromasin EOD
10mg Cialis ED

Last 4 weeks
Drop Test E and Deca dosages both to 420mg/wk.
Add Tren A 80mg ED (First 5 days 100mg ED)

If I don't drop Test dosage, adding Tren at that dose will cause mild acne breakout on shoulders.
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For me, high Test adds more quality mass.
I have ran Tren E @800mg/wk and various combinations with higher Deca, or NPP than Test.
Having Test high works better.
This is most likely due to my diet being pretty clean as well.

I can run Test E alone @1300mg and get awesome results. If I use lower AI and allow higher estrogen, joints feel great and added small amount of water retention keeps me strong and pumped.
 
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Im with the higher testosterone than other stacked compounds for sure! 800 mg trenbolone enanthate would kill me , and hopefully it would kill me before i killed anyone! lol
 
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