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    Default Tren Fatigue / Bad T3 Reaction

    Just like the subject says, I'm getting energy fatigue with when running Tren. Some problems with night sweats; insomnia and mood swings are minimal. I keep levels low, like 350mg tren E/wk, 350 test cyp/Wk, and 50mg var. .5 caber E3D / .5 armidex EOD

    I'm in the best shape of my life, good strength and don't feel the need to increase. Thinking bout working in some EQ but that fatigue is killing me with the Tren. I read from several sources to try T3 to offset the effects. Problem is I have a bad reaction to it. Like uncontrollable itching and hives. This isn't uncommon for me as wheat/gluten and a few other environmental allergens do the same and put me down.

    A half dose of phentermine helped me with the fatigue and kept me running a deficit but that supply dried up. Also going to try an old source for ECA stack but not confident it'll come through. Does anyone have an idea of something to sub for the T3 besides phen/eca?
     

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    I get the same from tren. Things I've been told from people way smarter at this than I am at this stuff; 1) Tren HIGHER than test, helps with everything but the being tired. 2) get some sugar; a few apples or pieces of fruit does help. 3) GW, helps a lot, you can get from Muscle Chemistry store. I've never used t-3 or t-4. I've also never used clen or any of the stims. Numbers 1-3 help me a lot.
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    I just saw that MC store has "stenbolic" I think that may help also. I'm going to get some and give it a try, Tren tired sucks.
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    Quote Originally Posted by fullytorqued View Post
    Just like the subject says, I'm getting energy fatigue with when running Tren. Some problems with night sweats; insomnia and mood swings are minimal. I keep levels low, like 350mg tren E/wk, 350 test cyp/Wk, and 50mg var. .5 caber E3D / .5 armidex EOD

    I'm in the best shape of my life, good strength and don't feel the need to increase. Thinking bout working in some EQ but that fatigue is killing me with the Tren. I read from several sources to try T3 to offset the effects. Problem is I have a bad reaction to it. Like uncontrollable itching and hives. This isn't uncommon for me as wheat/gluten and a few other environmental allergens do the same and put me down.

    A half dose of phentermine helped me with the fatigue and kept me running a deficit but that supply dried up. Also going to try an old source for ECA stack but not confident it'll come through. Does anyone have an idea of something to sub for the T3 besides phen/eca?
    Did u use Pharma t3?
    And never heard of that from t3!!
    With t3 it's very important to start slowly like 20mcg a day at most even less..
    I have used always combo t3/t4 while on hgh and fighting being tired but my main reasons were suppressed thyroid and edema.
    I am still on hgh but only 3.3iu generic 99% purity black tops. But came off the Novothyral mix by Merck Pharma brand, since July.

    But as far as it goes u can't just stay on tren brother!!! Once u get body fat low at desired place u gotta get off tren!!

    What sucks is if u feel tired now coming off tren makes it tougher!!! I am on tren atm for a cut! What helps me come off tren is low dose 25mg trest ace eod with around 50mg test prop and I use primo!! I hold leaness and fall back eventually from using tren in substitution for stricter diet! Lol!!!

    All I can tell u is I been on adderall for years and being adhd gets those.... but they don't give me nothing for energy unless I stop taking them a while and let tolerance come down. I really have adhd and need them but 5 days a week better than 7 and I have given break often just cause....

    When on hgh 5iu a day adderall didn't do squat and right now on 3.3iu I can take my fasted morning hgh dose take my adderall morning dose and go back to bed!!!

    Only thing that helped me with hgh in past was the thyroid but I was obvious suppressed.

    On what u tinkering with u probably shouldn't and get free 4 and TSH tested even free and reverse t3 before messing with all that!!! Listen to a Dr for those types of drugs or u asking for a heart attack especially on Tren!!! Only way around it u see is u get off tren!!!

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    Ok didn't notice how long u were on tren, but it looks to me like your AI is prolly tanking your estro...
    With that amount of test and tren I use 0.5mg adex 2x wk!!! And nolva 10mg a day as safeguard and added estro to liver and lipids!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muscle mechanic View Post
    Did u use Pharma t3?
    And never heard of that from t3!!
    Allergens have been a problem for me the past 10 years; getting worse by the year. Hives etc. The T3 I was using was from pct-shop back when they actually shipped.. maybe it had a binder or something that caused the reaction. Im gonna try some pharma grade and see if it still happens. Still use GW Aqua from MC store, it helps with getting winded but not for the mid-day fatigue.

    On the adex im using some new supply thats def stronger than the crap i had before that had to be used eod. So push that back to e3d with the caber. Bump tren add nolva. Thanks bro I'll work with this and find a sweet spot.
     

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