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    I've been thinking of doing a cycle of just anabolics, i.e, var, tren, etc. I've used the more androgenic ones in the past, and for whatever reason, my body chemistry just doesn't respond well to them, but I DO respond to the more anabolic compounds.

    What would be some suggestions for a cycle like that, say one moderate and one heavy? I'm already on HRT so I'll have a regular 400mg/week of test cypionate so there's no need for another androgen.

    My first thoughts would be something like:

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    Anavar: 80mg/day for 8 weeks
    Tren E: 200-300mg/week 16 weeks
    Masteron: 100mg/week 16 weeks

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    Anavar: 120mg/day for 10-12 weeks
    Tren E: 400mg/week 16 weeks
    Masteron: 200mg/week 16 weeks

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    I use test cyp because I'm on trt, and I store it up.
    test cyp 400 ish per week
    tren ace 500mg per week
    mast 500 mg per week
    anavar 100 mg every day.
    I think mine is moderate, but its maxed out for me. I'M OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    I am with you on everything but the tren.... to many sides for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by drtbear1967 View Post
    I am with you on everything but the tren.... to many sides for me.
    Yes Sir, tricky stuff Tren. Are any of you guys taking gabapentin (Nurontin) ? Since I've started taking Gabapentin My Tren sides are way, way down, I still get all of the good ones. But the bad are much easier to deal with. Just checking to see if it's just me.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by dpile View Post
    I use test cyp because I'm on trt, and I store it up.
    test cyp 400 ish per week
    tren ace 500mg per week
    mast 500 mg per week
    anavar 100 mg every day.
    I think mine is moderate, but its maxed out for me. I'M OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    damn doesnt the anavar at 100mg daily get expensive? How long do you use it at that dosage?
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    Yes expensive, at 100 ed it's at the end and maybe 2-3 weeks. after 50-60 ed for 3 weeks ish. I've only ever done this way once. I liked it. Not sure I would again, price and blood pressure. And blood pressure along with the tren… I did come across some blood pressure medicine. I forget the name it's mild but I find it helpful with That high anavar and tren at the same time.

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    It is too expensive for me, I got a deal from a friend that wanted me to try, so it was not too bad. I hear some guys taking Anavar and primo at big doses. That's why I'm broke they must have all of the money!!!!!!!!
     

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    I've been wanting to run anavar at 100mg/day, definitely expensive, but I know it works well for me. Even when I used it at 40mg/day for the first time, I had noticeable gains in two weeks.

    Why equipoise Presser? I didn't think that was regarded much as something to run since you have to run it so high to get anything out of it. I like winstrol, but at my age, I'd be worried about it drying out my joints. Maybe if I used a low dose deca I could use it.

    For masteron, is it a waste to use it at 100-200mg/week? I thought 500mg was high for that one.

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    Masteron can be run at 100-200 per week. It will help control estrogen at that dose. I have used as low as 300 per week and it was still great, but I was on test and tren at the time.

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    500 mg of Masteron per week, I don't think it's high. For me it's just about right for my goals. Hardens me up and I get very vascular.
     

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    What about primobolan? Is it a good anabolic? Trying to decide whether to use primobolan or masteron. Parabolan/Tren hex seems like it would work well for me, too. I already respond well to tren so I was thinking tren e, but maybe I should go for tren hex.

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    I've never used Primo. I really do like Mast. Great finisher, great sex drive, helps a bit with estro. For me Mast does a lot for a little.
     

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    So far, I'm looking at Anavar, Tren E, Masteron, and Primobolan now, having heard primo works very well as an anabolic. Will probably go more on the heavy side for 16-20 weeks.

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    After looking at some more options, I decided on the following:

    TRT dose of test (400mg/week that I already have)

    Tren E @ 200mg/week


    Anavar @ 100mg/day, 5 days on 2 days off


    Anadrol @ 50mg/day, 5 days on 2 days off (throwing in a bit of an androgen for a bit of an extra push)


    Masteron @ 200mg/week


    Ment (Trestolone Acetate 100 mg/ml) @ 50mg, 3 days/week


    Arimidex 1mg, 3 days/week

    20 week cycle for everything including the orals. Decided not to do primobolan after I read more about Ment. With these four anabolics and couple of androgens, I think I should respond quite well. Major point to remember will be to make sure I get a lot more protein supplementation in, at least an extra 80g besides what I eat. I expect that my body will recomp first, but I also hope to gain 5 to 10 lbs. Arimidex will be for estrogen control, and I also have some nolvadex to block e receptors.

    I'd like to add at least 20iu per day of HGH if I can.

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    I just added tren a to my TRT and do far so good

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    Tren is something I think I should be on all the time. Keeps me lean.

    Considering HGH is so expensive, should I just do the cycle as it is or try to accumulate enough HGH to add in? Since there's tren in this cycle, it would keep me relatively lean if I had no HGH, but I don't think I'd experience as much growth as I want.

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    Why is HGH still a popular addition to an individuals regimine. Has any one investigated enough or tryed MK 677? I personally am about to add in MK 677 since HGH is so damn expensive.
     

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    I tried the MK 677 for almost a month at 25mg a day split into two doses. I know you need to be on at least a month or two to see benefits. I feel that it was increasing my GH levels but I had crazy water retention so I stopped. Maybe in winter I will try it again or use the HGH frag for the fat loss properties. Any other peptides that are worth checking out?
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    I dont mean to change topics or veer into another subject; I recall Sodium and Potassium are the culprits in which resulting water bloat... they have to maintained and controlled at a certain level. Anyone recall those levels to avoid the water bloat that HGH and MK 677 bring due to those levels being out of a certain range?
     

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    I'm actually using MK-677 intermittently now. The thing with it is that it makes me so damn hungry, I about want to gnaw my hand off. I've used HGH in the past, and it doesn't do that to me. I also doubt that MK-677 could increase your natural HGH levels to the kind of level that pros use HGH. Even if you could, the hunger it would cause would drive you nuts. I also already get hungry the same way when I'm using insulin. Combining those two would probably make me eat everything in sight.

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    Besides the usual Hunger and Water bloat symptoms, what about positive effects from the MK 677, and a comparison to HGH.

    What do you mean by intermittently whats ur cycle
     

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    Not exactly cycling MK-677. Just using it to make myself eat, taking the regular dose of 25mg. I will usually take it every 2-3 days because the hunger effect lasts that long. I haven't really noticed that it does much more than make me extremely hungry. When I was on HGH, I got really lean, no bloat, best I ever looked.

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    It has been two weeks in, and I'm always amazed at how fast tren can recomp your physique. Feeling thicker already. I think the ment is working well, too. Powerful stuff!

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