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    I have empower pharm Deca Durabolin and was wondering how it is regarding recomposition versus tren. How does the muscle building compare? I’ve only done tren but I have been hearing people bitch about water retention/estrogen from deca. I know everyone is different but still. I have a prami 0.5mg and letrozole 2.5mg prescription and was wondering if .25mg prami twice weekly and letro 0.625 eod is a good start? I try to use the least ancillaries I can on cycle. Thanks brotherhood, I hope everyone has an excellent evening tonight!


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    Quote Originally Posted by JuicedRN View Post
    I have empower pharm Deca Durabolin and was wondering how it is regarding recomposition versus tren. How does the muscle building compare? I’ve only done tren but I have been hearing people bitch about water retention/estrogen from deca. I know everyone is different but still. I have a prami 0.5mg and letrozole 2.5mg prescription and was wondering if .25mg prami twice weekly and letro 0.625 eod is a good start? I try to use the least ancillaries I can on cycle. Thanks brotherhood, I hope everyone has an excellent evening tonight!


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    I wouldnt compare deca and tren.
    More similar would be NPP and tren.
    The faster acting nandrolone.
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macedog24 View Post
    I wouldnt compare deca and tren.
    More similar would be NPP and tren.
    The faster acting nandrolone.
    Ahh I see. How long would you suggest running deca? I hear 12 weeks a lot.


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    I'm not sure I would compare tren and npp, but deca doesn't compare with npp either, to some degree, even though they are both nandrolone. deca will cause water retention and gain, but only if you eat. I mean eat a lot. i have trouble eating that much. deca also seems to make it harder to control the sides, like deca-dick, as well. you'll gain with deca, but you'll smooth out. tren is a different kind of animal, in that it will maximize the nutrient value of the food you eat. tren also can affect your psa level, at least it does mine. part of that has to do with my age. tren makes you harder and you can still gain some with it. just my experience with it thus far. each person is different as far as sides as well, so to say how much prami and letro you'll need will be dependent on how good or bad your sides are. if you have a propensity to develop estrogen on the high side, or LH, you'll need to use more maybe. you might need to use nolva as well to help control it estrogen. the only way to tell is to use it.
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    Deca has way less sides and if you run anti- E compounds you will be fine. Then again Tren is the "king" for a reason. It will make you look ridiculous but it also has very potent sides. Deca's sides are much more mild ( other than the deca dick, but I have never experienced that one).

    If you try Tren I would alway start on the low end like 200mg/week and make sure to use the Ace version so you can stop it fast if you get unbearable sides.
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    Deca for me. I have to many sides on Tren. Not good for the family life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pgb View Post
    I'm not sure I would compare tren and npp, but deca doesn't compare with npp either, to some degree, even though they are both nandrolone. deca will cause water retention and gain, but only if you eat. I mean eat a lot. i have trouble eating that much. deca also seems to make it harder to control the sides, like deca-dick, as well. you'll gain with deca, but you'll smooth out. tren is a different kind of animal, in that it will maximize the nutrient value of the food you eat. tren also can affect your psa level, at least it does mine. part of that has to do with my age. tren makes you harder and you can still gain some with it. just my experience with it thus far. each person is different as far as sides as well, so to say how much prami and letro you'll need will be dependent on how good or bad your sides are. if you have a propensity to develop estrogen on the high side, or LH, you'll need to use more maybe. you might need to use nolva as well to help control it estrogen. the only way to tell is to use it.
    First. Why would you use letro.. All you need is asin or adex. I prefer asin . better on cholesterol and dont have to worry about rebound estro, as with letro, crashing your estro is to easy and it plays hell on your joints and tendons. Also dont run letro with tamox.
    Its effectiveness is reduced as much as 40%.
    Prami. Has to be ran slow and low.
    Start at .125 a few days then raise it .25 and repeat. .375. And repeat. .50. You should not have to exceed prami at .50. It is very strong and if real this dose is plenty...
    Npp will give you more rapid gains in strength and muscle fullness.. (Quicker)With less water weight..then(deca) You will sweat similar to using tren. All day long. Npp i sweat like a turkey on Thanksgiving.. Npp is exceptional at recomp. Its the closest thing to tren. With way less sides.. And very different than using deca.. Never once have i experience deca dick using npp..
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    trenbolone acetate gets my vote for recomp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    trenbolone acetate gets my vote for recomp
    I love tren for a recomp. But op sounds like he doesnt really wanna go with tren. I absolutely love tren a with npp..
    Tren sometimes can flaten you out. With npp oh my goodness.. You muscles look full and hard. Strength is crazy. Changes happen very fast. And my sexual arousal/performance was off the charts.. But you will sweat like never before.. During the middle of winter you will be standing out in the cold trying to cool down..haha..
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by JuicedRN View Post
    Deca or Tren? Which do you prefer for recomp?


    I have empower pharm Deca Durabolin and was wondering how it is regarding recomposition versus tren. How does the muscle building compare? I’ve only done tren but I have been hearing people bitch about water retention/estrogen from deca. I know everyone is different but still. I have a prami 0.5mg and letrozole 2.5mg prescription and was wondering if .25mg prami twice weekly and letro 0.625 eod is a good start? I try to use the least ancillaries I can on cycle. Thanks brotherhood, I hope everyone has an excellent evening tonight!


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    He asked which do we prefer for recomp and where does OP sound like he doesn’t wanna use tren?

    Recomp as in burn fat while adding muscle , not much movement on the scale weight wise but rather visual changes , tren hands down
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    And I love me some NPP! So nothing wrong with either but recomp wise I’d choose tren ace every time
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    trenbolone acetate gets my vote for recomp
    Second vote for tren ace here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    trenbolone acetate gets my vote for recomp
    Mine too. NOTHING compares to TREN.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Presser View Post
    He asked which do we prefer for recomp and where does OP sound like he doesn’t wanna use tren?

    Recomp as in burn fat while adding muscle , not much movement on the scale weight wise but rather visual changes , tren hands down
    Nothing will change you faster then tren ace..
    Maybe its just how i was interpreting his question.. Cause deca is nothing like tren. Not even close when considering a recomp..
    That is why i suggested npp. It will be much closer to what tren can do than deca. Even doing a lean bulk on deca can get away from you if your not ontop of everything...
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Macedog24 View Post
    Nothing will change you faster then tren ace..
    Maybe its just how i was interpreting his question.. Cause deca is nothing like tren. Not even close when considering a recomp..
    That is why i suggested npp. It will be much closer to what tren can do than deca. Even doing a lean bulk on deca can get away from you if your not ontop of everything...
    Interesting, so diet has to be more on lock with deca I assume?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Macedog24 View Post
    First. Why would you use letro.. All you need is asin or adex. I prefer asin . better on cholesterol and dont have to worry about rebound estro, as with letro, crashing your estro is to easy and it plays hell on your joints and tendons. Also dont run letro with tamox.
    Its effectiveness is reduced as much as 40%.
    Prami. Has to be ran slow and low.
    Start at .125 a few days then raise it .25 and repeat. .375. And repeat. .50. You should not have to exceed prami at .50. It is very strong and if real this dose is plenty...
    Npp will give you more rapid gains in strength and muscle fullness.. (Quicker)With less water weight..then(deca) You will sweat similar to using tren. All day long. Npp i sweat like a turkey on Thanksgiving.. Npp is exceptional at recomp. Its the closest thing to tren. With way less sides.. And very different than using deca.. Never once have i experience deca dick using npp..
    never used letro, always just adex. i did not know letro affects the tendons and ligaments. i prefer npp due to sides from tren that i do not care for. tren though, i think is the better recomp.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JuicedRN View Post
    Interesting, so diet has to be more on lock with deca I assume?


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    I'd say it has to do with the androgenic/anabolic differences and the amount of water gain.

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