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    Hey guys,

    Wanted some thoughts going into my cycle that I will be starting in December to aid in my prep for NPC show in April. The compounds I was thinking of using are test/mast/winny. I have used winny 50mg ED for 6 weeks in the past and I loved it but I was wondering if anyone has used both anavar and winny and which one they prefer. I know a lot of you will say Tren ace lol but I'm just turning 23 and I'm trying to hold off that monster for as long as possible while playing around with other compounds. The cycle I laid out is:

    16 weeks out: 500mg Test e
    12 weeks out: 500mg test e, 500mg mast e (250mgx2 a week)
    6 weeks out: switch to test prop mast prop, 150mg EOD. Add in 50mg winstrol (25mg twice daily)
    10 days out: drop injectables continue winny up until show day.

    let me know your thoughts guys. Thank ya!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jschopp View Post
    Hey guys,

    Wanted some thoughts going into my cycle that I will be starting in December to aid in my prep for NPC show in April. The compounds I was thinking of using are test/mast/winny. I have used winny 50mg ED for 6 weeks in the past and I loved it but I was wondering if anyone has used both anavar and winny and which one they prefer. I know a lot of you will say Tren ace lol but I'm just turning 23 and I'm trying to hold off that monster for as long as possible while playing around with other compounds. The cycle I laid out is:

    16 weeks out: 500mg Test e
    12 weeks out: 500mg test e, 500mg mast e (250mgx2 a week)
    6 weeks out: switch to test prop mast prop, 150mg EOD. Add in 50mg winstrol (25mg twice daily)
    10 days out: drop injectables continue winny up until show day.

    let me know your thoughts guys. Thank ya!
    First let me say welcome, and I apologize that you thread was moderated until just now as it got caught in our spam filter for sme reason. Anyhow, now everyone can see it and help add some insight

    What show are you doing if you dont mind my asking and what exactly are you competing in? Your stats would also help give a more detailed answer. But overall you laid it out ok. I am a big proponent of Less is More, and with that said, I do think your robbing yourself a bit by not using trenbolone acetate at least and using it straight through the show. Prop, winstrol, tren ace and igf-1 is what i use to use , and I would drop everything about 10 days out except the tren ace i would run straight through show.

    Keeping with your compounds your using, i would have to say it looks fine, but i personally would drop the winstrol as well a week out and i would start the prop and drop the testosterone enanthate at week 8 not 6.

    And your question about anavar and winstrol and which is prefrence, i would have to say its apples and oranges man. For the show prep cycle though i would stick to the winstrol tabs.

    Circling back around, trenbolone acetate with testosterone proipionate, and winstrol (IGF1 lr3 too if it was me, but your fine without it if its your first show and just starting out) but those compounds synergistically are ABSOLUTELY AMAZING.

    So while i can respect a younger guy saying he wants to wait, i have to say if your competing and already doing those other compounds, your really leaving a lot on the table so to speak by not utilizing tren ace
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    I have done both and I like winny the best for how it makes me look as well as how it helps my strength. Then again I don't have any joint issue with winny.

    Everybody is different but I would start with winny and see if your joints hurt. If they do switch out to Var.
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    May i ask why you’re waiting 4 weeks to start the masteron enanthate?

    I love winstrol and nothing other than tren makes me look better and harder.

    Are you using an AI?


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    Thanks for the welcome! As far as my stats I'm 5'10'' and 210lbs at the moment. As far as body fat percentage I always find the numbers people post to be inaccurate but I still have visible abs/obliques with striations in shoulders and chest. This will be my first NPC show and I'm looking to do cross divisions competing in both mens physique and classic physique just to see where I fit in best. I appreciate your input and yes Tren ace I know would significantly help, it is still on my mind however I can't help but feel like its jumping the gun. btw I will keep that in mind starting short esters 8 weeks instead of 6. gonna be feeling like a pin cushion lol
     

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    Quote Originally Posted by JackSteel View Post
    May i ask why you’re waiting 4 weeks to start the masteron enanthate?

    I love winstrol and nothing other than tren makes me look better and harder.

    Are you using an AI?


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    main reason man is just because it's more of a cosmetic drug, not gonna build a lot of muscle I figured. It's a new compound to me but I figured as I go deeper into prep it will allow the drug to shine more. Plus expensive af. I agree I had amazing experience with winstrol and no joint issues other people seem to have. Plus when you carb load while on winny it gets nasty shredsville.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jschopp View Post
    JackSteel
    main reason man is just because it's more of a cosmetic drug, not gonna build a lot of muscle I figured. It's a new compound to me but I figured as I go deeper into prep it will allow the drug to shine more. Plus expensive af. I agree I had amazing experience with winstrol and no joint issues other people seem to have. Plus when you carb load while on winny it gets nasty shredsville.
    That makes sense I guess. I don’t tend to get joint issues on winny either. But I am getting older so we’ll see lol


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    winstrol kills my knees anymore, i wish i could use it like you guys witout any issues
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    I don't even want to know what winny would do to me now with me being almost 51. I probably wouldn't run winny without deca at my age.

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