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cybersteffan
11-08-2002, 11:47 AM
Say you were to do a 12 week cycle with 500 mg test and 400 mg deca / week, and you decide to take along 20 mg nolva/day, then is it guaranteed you won't get gyno or will it just reduce the risk?

gymrat
11-08-2002, 11:55 AM
I would prefer to go with .50mg of liquidex/day. That always guarantees no gyno for me and I'm convinced that nolvadex hindered some of my cycles in the past. Just my .02

DecaDent*
11-08-2002, 12:00 PM
No gaurentees at all,there is always progesterone and prolactin isses...

cybersteffan
11-08-2002, 12:03 PM
do I at least have the guarantee I won't get estrogen gyno?

DecaDent*
11-08-2002, 12:18 PM
Nolva's a receptor blocker that competes with estrogen for the binding site on the cell. You still will have high estrogen blood levels from aromatization without using L-dex so the excess E2 will compete with the Nolva,add L-dex or femara if your worried. I'd run an antiE like L-dex and just keep the Nolva around for "in case" type use and not ED.

viper10139
11-08-2002, 12:24 PM
there is no gyno prevention....u can help reduce the chance...I have used Liquidex and I still got gyno, through some nolvadex in there and took care of it... so your decison what works best for you bro....

TAZ
11-08-2002, 01:28 PM
You stand a much better chance preventing Gyno with Nolvadex that Liquidex for the reasons that Decadent explained. I have run cycles with both l-dex and Nolva and didn't notice any difference in gains. But like Decadent stated neither one is going to do anything for progesterone. If your real concerned about it run EQ instead of Deca. IMO with only 500mg of test I wouldn't run anything unless I started retaining water or got itchy nips.
-TAZ

Mrdummy
11-08-2002, 02:53 PM
:)

superchicken
11-10-2002, 03:37 PM
theres also femara and aromasin, those ar stronger than ldex.

id rather use an anti aromatose then nolva ed, obviously for lowered estro and bloat acne etc,,,, but also if you miss your nolva for a couple days your fuked cause estro levels are sky high, while if you miss your ldex for a few days, youll prob be just fine.
you never know whats gonna happen, i relied on nolva to stop my gyno and i got tits cause i couldnt get to my nolva