The Hardest THING IN THE WORLD!!!!!

madchemist36

madchemist36

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i have already gotten my juice for about three cycles. and having it on hand and not being able to use it is the hardest thing. i have it saved at a safe place until i am recovered from my last cycle.

Now another tough thing is i dont know how i wanna use all this gear. i Start my cutting cycle Dec 9 so i have about 4 weeks to figure everything out. So please post on how u would use this gear. so far i think i will do three cycles. 2 cutting and 1 bulking.
one cutting next month then a lean bulk cycle and then one more cutting b4 the competition in June.

5vials T200(tornel)
3vials QV EQ
10vials QV Prop
1vial QV Winny (100mg/ml 20ml)
2vials QV Deca (300mg/ml)
800tabs Naps
40mls Fina 80mg/ml
50tabs Parlodel
400tabs Nolvadex
90tabs Clomid
20,000IU HCG

I have basically everything planned out but i wanna know how U would use this gear. remember i have a competition in June. and i cannot bulk rite now cuz i am already 22%bf.
 
try this
prop 100mgs 1-12
fina 80mgs 1-12
EQ 450mgs/wk 1-10

now for a couple you don't have listed
t-3 liquid 20mgs 40mgs 60mgs 80 mgs and back down = 8week
liquid clen / eca 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
ala 3-4.5g's/day
l-dex .25-.5 /day depending upon you

protein 250 gs /day
carbs 200 gs/day
fat 50-75gs/day

the diet can be worked with depending upon metabolisim
 
Presser said:
I PERSONALY WOULDNT USE ANYTHING BUT THE PROP,WINNY , AND FINA IF I WERE TO USE AT ALL, THE T200,DECA AND NAPS ARE ALL OVERKILL IN MY OPINION,
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What do u mean overkill in your opinion.
 
mailboxkillR said:
try this
prop 100mgs 1-12
fina 80mgs 1-12
EQ 450mgs/wk 1-10

now for a couple you don't have listed
t-3 liquid 20mgs 40mgs 60mgs 80 mgs and back down = 8week
liquid clen / eca 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
ala 3-4.5g's/day
l-dex .25-.5 /day depending upon you

protein 250 gs /day
carbs 200 gs/day
fat 50-75gs/day

the diet can be worked with depending upon metabolisim
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thanx for the advice. one question i have for u is that i will be injecting 2ccs ed and what will u recommend for the injection site.

and yeah i will be taking ldex for sure and my budget is very very tight now so i might have to skip the clen i do have about a 100tabs of 20mcg t3.
 
Presser said:


i just think you nor anyone else needs that many different things to grow thats all,
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presser i agree with 100% but i got a variety of gear so i can try everything and see what suits me. i very serious about becoming a pro. so i want to know how my body will react with different drugs. also i wont be doing all this gear in one cycle. i think i have enough to last me 1.5-2 years.
 
Hit them all bro just choose
example tri's 2 cc day half in each one
When you throw the EQ into the mixture it's more like 2.8cc's those I saved for major muscle groups quads pecs traps. I ran all three mon wed fri which helps cut down on the sticks. If you can try to get some liquid clen the shit works wonders.
I'm around if ya got more questions big guy.
 
mailboxkillR said:
Hit them all bro just choose
example tri's 2 cc day half in each one
When you throw the EQ into the mixture it's more like 2.8cc's those I saved for major muscle groups quads pecs traps. I ran all three mon wed fri which helps cut down on the sticks. If you can try to get some liquid clen the shit works wonders.
I'm around if ya got more questions big guy.
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thanx a lot bro i will definilty try to get a hold of some liq. clen i will start my cycle on Dec 9th.
 
Hey man if you dont need any of that gear send it my way lol time for me to start shopping for my next cycle lol....good luck man...although I am not sure exactly how you are going to run all that?!
 
mailboxkillR said:
try this
prop 100mgs 1-12
fina 80mgs 1-12
EQ 450mgs/wk 1-10

now for a couple you don't have listed
t-3 liquid 20mgs 40mgs 60mgs 80 mgs and back down = 8week
liquid clen / eca 2 weeks on 2 weeks off
ala 3-4.5g's/day
l-dex .25-.5 /day depending upon you

protein 250 gs /day
carbs 200 gs/day
fat 50-75gs/day

the diet can be worked with depending upon metabolisim
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bro i am only 18years old i dont know if u know this. Do u still think it is ok for me to do that much shit.

I was just thinking about doing

300mgprimo/week (i forgot to mention i have 28amps of Primo)
50mgprop ed
50mgfina ed
50mgwinny eod
of course as u suggested i will try to get a hold of some clen

So tell me what u think. If u have seen my pix i have good size for my age i just wanna get ripped. and when i do get ripped i will add lean mass.
 
Madchemist, have you tried the QV winny yet? I will be getting some shortly, curious to know someone's opinion...Biotch...:D
 
Kiss said:
Madchemist, have you tried the QV winny yet? I will be getting some shortly, curious to know someone's opinion...Biotch...:D
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havent tried it yet, i plan to soon. heard it is good shit biotch!!!:p
 
I know you young but this is number 2 cycle isin't it? One question are you sure that your 22% bf it doesn't look it. If worried about doses drop the fina down to 50 and prop to 80. The cycle i posted was my last one which I lost 4% bf and gained 15 lbs of weight all lean mass. Diet is the big thing here the more you eat the more you'll grow but becareful of adding bf eat VERY CLEAN.
 
mailboxkillR said:
I know you young but this is number 2 cycle isin't it? One question are you sure that your 22% bf it doesn't look it. If worried about doses drop the fina down to 50 and prop to 80. The cycle i posted was my last one which I lost 4% bf and gained 15 lbs of weight all lean mass. Diet is the big thing here the more you eat the more you'll grow but becareful of adding bf eat VERY CLEAN.
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thnx a lot bro.

i will definilty eat clean. i am 100% sure that my bf is 22%, i have gotten it checked three time already everytime a different person.

Here is a sample plan of my diet

100g Carbs with ALA
300g Protien
50g Fat (olive oil, flax seed)

i think if i keep this diet up for 8weeks i can get down to 12%bf i will also hit cardio as much as possible.
 
Looks good to go just don't get frustrated if it doesn't happen in 8 weeks 10% of body fat in 2 months is a serious drop but very possible. Still can't beleive your 22% by looking at your pics too much defination for 22%. How many sites are they measuring?
 
mailboxkillR said:
Looks good to go just don't get frustrated if it doesn't happen in 8 weeks 10% of body fat in 2 months is a serious drop but very possible. Still can't beleive your 22% by looking at your pics too much defination for 22%. How many sites are they measuring?
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i am glad to hear that it is possible to drop that much. but i promised my self that i will not bulk until i am down to 10% bcuz my competition is in JUNE and i dont have time for many cycles. so i will cut then leanbulk and then cut again b4 the comp. they are measuring back, abs, bicep, tricep.
 
hey bro-you might want to try cycling your carbs-worked great for me-2 days 150gm-2 days 50gm-2 days 0-then start again-I did 45min on the bike in the am on an empty stomach 4x a week along with my training split in the PM-used clen and ECA-dropped 24 lbs in 10 weeks-it aint easy but it can be done!!-Good Luck and keep us posted!!
 
rippedchef said:
hey bro-you might want to try cycling your carbs-worked great for me-2 days 150gm-2 days 50gm-2 days 0-then start again-I did 45min on the bike in the am on an empty stomach 4x a week along with my training split in the PM-used clen and ECA-dropped 24 lbs in 10 weeks-it aint easy but it can be done!!-Good Luck and keep us posted!!
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holy shit empty stomach cardio 45mins every morning very dedicated. i will try the cycling and let you know how it goes.
 
Hey mad bro I just looked at the pics again in the members forum and those pics are no way 22%bf. I don't mean to sound like a broken record but those are just too cut uo for that bf. you have vascularity in oth shoulders running down the bi's and your back has very definate defination. You can see all the muscle groups like you have paper thin skin I would say that you are around 12%. A 4 fold skin measurement goes tri's abs illium(love handles) and top of thigh. There are more sites they do measure from but the formula changes also. I don't mean to be a prick or anything but I think tsomebody has your bf%'s off but in your favor. Maybe I'm wrong see what other people think. the only reason I'm bothered from this is because you may be cutting when you could be bulking. Just trying to help you out to reach your goals. I wish someone would have done that for me at your age I always wanted to compete but didn't have the knowledge then. Maybe look at some other pics with stats and see what you think you'll see where I'm comming from.
 
oh yea-I forgot to tell you-NO FREAKIN' WAY YOU ARE 22%-I don't know who is testing you but find a place to get dunked-spend the extra $$ so you will know for sure!!-I was a lard ass 264 before my first show-I was on stage at 204-60 lbs I lost-my BF was 18% when I started and I looked nowhere near as lean as you do-mailbox has you about right-11-15-somewhere in there depending on where you hold fat-Train Hard!!-P.S.-hows the war against weed going??-
 
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