cheap kynoselen (not a source post cuz it's legal)

I found a website selling kynoselen in the typical 100ml bottles for only 17.34 per bottle. They are located in Australia, but ship worldwide and no probs should be experienced with customs since it is legal. I just figured I'd pass along the info. If you are interested go to: www.expressvetproducts.com

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what the hell is that stuff used for?

From what I gather some say it does nothing others say it helps preserve muscle, raise metabolism, increase vascularity, burn bodyfat. Medically it is used to help greyhounds lose bodyfat and get ready for a race/show. It is not a miracle drug, many claim it is crap. It is basically some vitamins w/ some AMP added.

Here is some info on it:

Kynoselen is a muscular stimulant, tonic and restorative. It provides cellular, muscular and metabolic stimulation and helps regulate and protect cardio-vascular function. In Europe and Australia it is used in the treatment of horses and dogs with muscular dystrophies. It works by stimulating energy transformation, fat metabolism and metabolic oxidative processes.

Kynoselen is very effective for helping overweight dogs lose excess bodyfat and gain muscle in preparation for the show ring. It can also be used to enhance performance during strenuous activities such as racing. Although this is not an anabolic steroid, please check with your sanctioning body as Kynoselen is banned by certain organizations including some horse racing and greyhound racing organizations


Composition Each 100 mL contains disodic adenosine monophosphate 0.2 g, heptaminol hydrochloride 0.5 g, sodium selenite 0.05 g, potassium aspartate 1 g, magnesium aspartate 1.5 g and cyanocobalamin 0.025 g.

Actions Cardiac and respiratory restorative and tonic. Selenium supplement.

Indications : An aid in control of muscular dystrophy and tying up syndrome in horses and dogs; aid in the treatment and prevention of muscular disorders due to selenium deficiency.

Dosage and Administration : Give by subcutaneous or intramuscular injection. For prevention, give 1 injection once a week for 2 to 3 weeks; for treatment, give 1 injection once every 3 days for 9 to 12 days. Adult horses. 20 mL. Foals. 10 mL. Dogs. 2 to 5 mL according to size.

Presentation : Injection: 100 mL.

expressvetproducts.com carries almost lots of products w/ the same active ingredients as the synthetek products, but for a fraction of the cost. I personally have never orderred from them, but am going to give it a try.

I thank you

I definitely have been wanting to try it.I wanted to try the kynoselen with an inj. B-12 on a good cycle.It should kick ass!!
Thanks for the heads up on this.

i ordered from them got 2 bottles used one and about 5 ml out of the other. the more you take i feel the better it works but 12 ml a week is too much for me to take.

All those who pay 75-120 per bottle are getting screwed. A few hours searching online and I finally found it for only 17.00 per bottle. I orderred 5 bottles of kyno, and some other products they have. From what I can see alot of the products may be superior to kyno. I just can't believe these prices. They seem too good to be true... I guess I know if/when my stuff arrives...

I also got a bottle of MITOCHONDRIAL INJECTION which looked liek it may be good the massive stack my "grey hound" will be taking, LOL:

Mitochondral Injection 100ml


Composition : Each mL contains l-carnitine 200 mg, d-phenylalanine 4 mg, l-isoleucine 5.33 mg.

Actions : l-Carnitine is an essential cofactor of lipid metabolism found in living tissues, particularly the heart and skeletal muscles, where it is involved in cellular energy production. Its action is to assist the transportation of long chain fatty acids across the membrane of the cell mitochondria to enable their breakdown by enzyme pathways into energy (ATP), carbon dioxide and water. Carnitine is also believed to have other important roles, such as preventing the toxic accumulation of acetyl CoA compounds. These compounds are trapped as carnitine esters and transported from the muscle to the liver for processing, and to the kidney for excretion. This function is not unlike a physiological buffer and so carnitine may play a protective role in preventing metabolic acidosis. l-Carnitine is available to animals through their diet or by endogenous (within the body) biosynthesis from dietary precursors. However, as herbage and cereals have relatively low levels of carnitine, endogenous production is important. Deficiency of l-carnitine can therefore arise when the diet is lacking in carnitine, or precursors (lysine, methionine, vitamin C, vitamin B6, niacin and iron). Signs of carnitine deficiency in the body are associated with a failure to utilise fatty acids for energy production and include skeletal muscle dysfunction and weakness, heart enlargement, heart failure and rhythm disturbances, and hepatic dysfunction.

Indications : l-Carnitine requirements are known to rise during periods of increased tissue demand. Supplementation is recommended in the following situations: performance feeding; neonates (foals and yearlings have been found to have greater requirements for l-carnitine); diets known to be low in carnitine and its precursors; cardiac and skeletal muscle disease; hepatic and renal disease; debilitation, inappetence, convalescence; gastrointestinal disturbances and parasitism; derangements in fat metabolism.

Dosage and Administration : Administer intramuscularly twice weekly, preferably within 4 to 6 hours of expected strenuous exercise, or as directed by a veterinary surgeon. Adult horses. 15 to 25 mL. Racing dogs. 2 to 5 mL.

Presentation : Injection (multidose vial): 100 mL.

And my final product that I'll be the guinea pig w/ that I orderred was Dynacleine 50ml:


Composition :Adenosine triphosphate (ATP).

Actions : ATP is the essential high energy component of chemical reactions required for intracellular metabolism, muscle contraction and nerve function. It has been used clinically to help reduce the effects of fatigue and muscular overwork, and is used as an adjunct to treatment of torn and injured muscle, tendon and ligament tissue, particularly in the racing greyhound. May assist in muscular contraction and the production of intracellular energy.

Indications : Muscular injuries in greyhounds.

Dosage and Administration : Intramuscular injection. Horses. 2 mL/50 kg bodyweight. Dogs. 1 mL/10 kg bodyweight. 2 to 5 injections may be administered 24 to 48 hours apart. Local administration. To assist repair as an adjunct to other therapy: multiple injections of 0.2 to 0.5 mL to total 1 to 2 mL around area of muscle injury 24 to 48 hours after injury in racing greyhounds.

Presentation : Injection (multidose vial), 12.5 mg/mL: 50 mL.

Anyone interested in kyno, it's active ingredients, or any related products should check out that website. There are so many different preparations for you dogs to use and the prices are sweet. And no I'm not affiliated w/ this website. I'm just excited cuz I just got a super deal! Hopefully this shit will work and I can prove all those people wrong! hahaha... or i'll just be quiet and whimper....

Everyone that tried it pretty much said it was a waste! I wouldnt waste your money!

I agree that it may be a waste. But those same people are I believe are likely suspecting steroidal type gains from it since it is an injectable. I mean take creatine and glutamine for example; I believe it works, but when I take it I can't see any dramatic change. I wonder sometimes if I get anything out of it or if it is just my dietary changes or natural progression in the sport.

Addittionally I truly believe 99% of those who have used kyno only used 1 bottle and at a doseage that is 1/4 or that needed to get gains. I don't mean dramatic gains, but just mediocre supplemental gains. I can't see it being more effective than creatine, but hey if creatine works and there is a supplement out there that works to the same degree as well, what is wrong with using it.

Let's say that none of the ingredients in themselves provide any benefit to the body. The itramuscular addition of fluid could possibly provide space for new muscular tissue similar to synthol. Maybe not since it's water based but it just crossed my mind.

But if you are right, it's too late cuz I already bought a bunch. I figure I can't go wrong with buying 5 bottles of kyno if they are only 17.00 each. What can I lose? I mean I can even sell two of the bottles legally on ebay or at the gym if nothing is happenning and make my money back with ease. They got some guy selling it on ebay right now too!, lol.

I will be taking no AS along w/ my kyno and will be taking a roughly 6 cc's ED if I can handle it until I run out and will post my results if any. Finally, in a few weeks we may actually have a high dose kynoselen experience on this board to share or a lack thereof! LOL! Only time will tell....

One could easily set up an online bussiness quintupling their money by getting kyno at these prices and selling them to bodybuilders so that they can give them to their dogs. After all every bodybuilder has there own horse, cow, and greyhound don't they? I know I sure do! LOL

at 6cc ED with a good amount of BA or whatever makes it "sting like a hive of bees"-I think it will be more like "loud groans of agony" than "quiet wimpering"-Good Luck!!

is kyno oil based?

INTRESTING BRO. KEEP US POSTED

No, it appears to be water based. I borrowed one cc from a poor friend of mine who bought his bottle for 120! Anyways I shot it in my stomach sub-q and it stung for about 10minutes and now I can't feel anything. I haven't started my heavy kyno cycle yet, i was just trying it out while I wait for mine to get here. I used a 27g insulin needle and it worked fine.

Kyno is water based ...

Hmmm ... Dynacleine sounds interesting. Keep us posted. I'd like to hear how it makes you feel/energy levels and all that.

They also sell AMP real cheap!

Just be careful when taking this!!! I took what should have been a safe dose, 375mg and DAMN NEAR passed out!

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I've already placed three orders... since yesterday,,,lol. I am getting:

6 100ml bottles kynoselen

2 20ml bottles AMP-5
(Adenosine5-monophosphote 200mg/ml)

1 100ml bottle Mitochondrial Injection
(lcartinine200mg/ml, d-phenylalanine, i-isoleucine)

1 100ml bottle Enerselen (adinosine triphosphate, uridine triphosphate, heptaminol hydorcholorid, magnesium aspartate, potassium aspartate, cyanocobalamin)

1 50ml bottle Dynacleine (ATP)
1 100ml bottle Aminoplex (vitamin and amino acid inj)
1 100ml V.A.M (another vitamin and mineral sup)

I plan on taking a massive stack of all this stuff lasting 100 days. I will slowly increase my doseages as a safety measure depending on how I feel. I am doing this for 100 days and then I will go back on AS. If this works I am going to do AS cycles and do ATP/AMP/amino/vitamin/glutamine/creatine cycles in my off time.

I will be extra careful as I have never heard of anyone taking this stuff before. Most of these products speed metabolism and act as a cardiac stimulant and vasodialotor. I am gonna get my blood pressure checked regularly as a precaution. I am hoping to gain a little muslce or strength and lose some fat and hopefully have an improve in my forearm, bicep, and delt vascularity.

Finally in a few months we will have a report of what all this kyno related stuff dose in realistic (or maybe obscene) doseages. I believe most who say kyno doesn't work are taking a whole cycle w/ one bottle which I think is far to little. And again the gains to be expected should be more like traditional supplemention nature and not anabolic.

I can't wait to see what if any of the results I take. Oh and I took 1cc of kyno in my stomach today. It hardly stung at all. I won't have any problem handling the multiple daily injections. It difuses quite quicky too which is a plus.