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skwood
01-15-2003, 12:58 PM
Any one else experiencing excessive pain and discomfort from the EQL products?

I just started using the EQL Prop, Enanthate & EQ. I've gotten some big welts. They seem to hurt a lot more than the QV Test 250 and the Denkal t-400.

gymrat
01-15-2003, 01:05 PM
that is the first time I've heard that. I heard that they were painless. Was about to put in an order. How long have you been on so far?

winnie
01-15-2003, 01:08 PM
This is the second time I've heard this, which isn't surprising to me. It seems that it would be impossible not to have prop have some pain especially if your prone to pain.

gymrat
01-15-2003, 01:10 PM
now has anyone had any results they can speak of. And NO OFFENSE TO THE MODS, but I would rather it be regular member. The reason is that I've been reading from a lot of boards and the mods seem like they have a vested interest in EQL. They are pushing them harder then anything. It's making me a little skeptic. I want to know if any non-mod has any results to speak of. Even if is is pain.

winnie
01-15-2003, 01:16 PM
Originally posted by gymrat
now has anyone had any results they can speak of. And NO OFFENSE TO THE MODS, but I would rather it be regular member. The reason is that I've been reading from a lot of boards and the mods seem like they have a vested interest in EQL. They are pushing them harder then anything. It's making me a little skeptic. I want to know if any non-mod has any results to speak of. Even if is is pain.

I agree, most of what i hear about the products are coming from a biased source, IMO.

Hey give me some free stuff and i'll tell ya how great it is too...:D

J/K...I am sure they are great products, but until it hits the market real hard we won't know for sure. I know some tests are being done over at FG, so we'll wait and see.

viper10139
01-15-2003, 01:21 PM
free stuff....yes I agree!!

skwood
01-15-2003, 01:34 PM
I've done 3 shots so far. I did expect a little pain with the Prop but based on what I read I thought the enanthate would be painless.

I don't think I'm really prone to pain as other supposedly painful products really had little impact on me. (T-400, 50ml QV Test 250)

I'm sure I'll get use to it - just wondered if others had the same promlem.

Choke03
01-15-2003, 02:51 PM
Bump, very curious about EQL.

pigmeat
01-15-2003, 03:25 PM
I took first shot monday morning of EQL test e .5cc, and EQL eq .5cc. NO PAIN AT ALL! NOT EVEN MINOR DISCOMFORT! This by far was the most pleasant shot i have ever had. Hell, flu shots hurt worse. I ONLY HOPE THE GAINS ARE AS GOOD AS THE "PAINLESS" FACTOR! Blacktail over at fg also reported no pain from his test e and deca.

Presser
01-15-2003, 03:26 PM
I think it depends on the person myself,as with anything i also think alot of folks are loading the syringe full and thats killing them as well

pigmeat
01-15-2003, 03:34 PM
well said presser. I stick to 2cc max on any injection. Myself, i have been prone to pain in the past and is always a big concern when choosing gear to use. Luckily, no pain at all with EQL!

gander
01-15-2003, 03:42 PM
I have to totally agree with Presser also. I was hearing (as we all were) about pain with QV 250. Then after digging a little deeper, we find that some of these guys were doing 3cc's in the quad. IMO, if you go over 2cc's, then don't bitch about the pain. Some can handle it, others can't. Not saying that some gear isn't painful, but let's not categorize anything too fast.

blacktail
01-15-2003, 06:04 PM
Originally posted by gymrat
now has anyone had any results they can speak of. And NO OFFENSE TO THE MODS, but I would rather it be regular member. The reason is that I've been reading from a lot of boards and the mods seem like they have a vested interest in EQL. They are pushing them harder then anything. It's making me a little skeptic. I want to know if any non-mod has any results to speak of. Even if is is pain.

i will be doing shot 5 thursday of test/deca 1cc total and have little to no pain! the t200 i did last year i could hardly walk the next day so im not one who does not have pain from gear!
go slow i feel is the key!

BLACKTAIL

gearedup
01-15-2003, 06:10 PM
Originally posted by gymrat
now has anyone had any results they can speak of. And NO OFFENSE TO THE MODS, but I would rather it be regular member. The reason is that I've been reading from a lot of boards and the mods seem like they have a vested interest in EQL. They are pushing them harder then anything. It's making me a little skeptic. I want to know if any non-mod has any results to speak of. Even if is is pain.

The mods push stuff that is good if you look at posts by us 3 months ago we were all talking about QV stuff if you look at all the posts 8-10 months ago we were all talking about TT products! If you read there is a long thread on my board and all the vets and mods and almost every single user of these products have no pain it is only a couple people saying this! I am using there prop, EQ and a new mix and am up almost 16lbs in 3 weeks with no pain from any of the injections! Most underground companies dont offer gear that is this high mg/ml and if they do like for instanmce IP they dont care to put the time and effort to make the products pianless like this and another companhy that was out that made high mg/ml stuff that everyone said couldnt be or it must be painfull blacklabel did it and proved everyone wrong and they earned my respect when everyone hated on them! Now because this is a new product that outdoes the others the haters say it must be bad and they will be provewn wrong like the others were when they called BL a scam!

Fact is that these products are getting 3 independat lab tests, are supposed to be overdosed and I checked my bottle and it was almost 2ml's overfilled! Now why must people hate and it is sad that everyone has to be so suspicious of everything?

tinman01
01-15-2003, 06:22 PM
Ouch just did a prop tri shot,
burned for 45 sec then went away
IT HAS BEGUN........

rooster1
01-15-2003, 11:53 PM
:) But these mods have gained my trust which isn't easy to do.I took the leap of faith and am trying the prop.Will post on this thread about pain and results.If the quality is anywhere close to the service,I will look like a freaky science project....:D

dedprez*
01-16-2003, 12:01 AM
remember to eat fellas!!!!!also...we wouldnt push something that we did not believe in.

blacktail
01-16-2003, 01:32 AM
Originally posted by dedprez*
remember to eat fellas!!!!!also...we wouldnt push something that we did not believe in.

i feel like im going to puke all day long!:(

BLACKTAIL

stumpy
01-16-2003, 02:51 AM
i have to friends on eql products and though its only been a couple of weeks------they say so far so good. ill try and keep you updated.

rippedchef
01-16-2003, 09:41 AM
EQ is very smooth

CorpseTrain
01-16-2003, 11:14 AM
eql = the present & the future

pigmeat
01-16-2003, 11:54 AM
bump for painless inj.

redballer3232
01-16-2003, 02:30 PM
I've been using EQL deca for about 3 weeks, and I'm having no pain. I even mix it with test prop and still no pain. Good stuff in my book.

BStrongBwell*
01-16-2003, 06:32 PM
All I can add to this is....

IF IT HURTS, EITHER STOP DOING IT OR SUCK IT UP AND QUIT BEING A FUCKING PUSSY! I put 3cc's of shit in virtually every fucking bodypart I can! Does it hurt, YES in some cases, no in others. Who the fuck cares? You're sticking a piece of steel in your muscle and forcing chemical-laden oil into your tissue! Jesus Christ! If you're worried about pain, why the fuck do you train hard? Oh, maybe you DON'T!!!

Personally, I've never tried the product. But I can say that if I back a particular product, it WILL NOT BE BECAUSE I GET IT FOR FREE. If it';s good and worth backing, I'll back it. If it's not good---free or not free---I won't say anything good about it!!!! So, if you want to offend me, go ahead and imply that my opinion on something is not valuable..... I'm NOT offended by anyone's comments. But, I want everyone to know where I stand with respect to backing ANYTHING.

BStrongBwell*
01-16-2003, 06:32 PM
BUMP

BStrongBwell*
01-16-2003, 06:33 PM
BUMP!!!

skwood
01-16-2003, 07:07 PM
My question was not met to be a source of controversy. Let's face it, there are an number of variable involved that can lead to painful injections and we know that different products are going to effect each of us in different ways.

Anyways, I'm going to use a longer pin next time, limit the injection to 2ml per site and take my time and pushing it in.

I certainly know the stuff works - I'm up 8 lbs in the first week and a half. Now who wouldn't be happy with that?

dedprez*
01-16-2003, 07:12 PM
so....take it easy bstrong...bad day??:)

BStrongBwell*
01-16-2003, 07:24 PM
think the tren is gettin' to me...sorry, lol...

BStrongBwell*
01-16-2003, 07:27 PM
most likely a result of good workouts, diet control, rest, and pushed over the top by a good supp/AAS regimen... good to hear the positive results...look forward to seeing where you stand around week 6 or so.


Originally posted by skwood
My question was not met to be a source of controversy. Let's face it, there are an number of variable involved that can lead to painful injections and we know that different products are going to effect each of us in different ways.

Anyways, I'm going to use a longer pin next time, limit the injection to 2ml per site and take my time and pushing it in.

I certainly know the stuff works - I'm up 8 lbs in the first week and a half. Now who wouldn't be happy with that?

NeotonBomb
01-16-2003, 08:13 PM
to the top for more EQL pain reports (test enath etc.) from people who are on it

NeotonBomb
01-16-2003, 08:25 PM
to the top for more EQL pain reports (test enath etc.) from people who are on it

tinman01
01-16-2003, 08:47 PM
Day two for prop shot delt... no pain here.....

NeotonBomb
01-16-2003, 08:53 PM
to the top for more EQL pain reports (test enath etc.) from people who are on it

pigmeat
01-17-2003, 03:27 AM
took 2nd shot thurs am ..5cc test enth, .5 cc eq...... No pain!

NeotonBomb
01-17-2003, 07:21 AM
good to hear!

tinman01
01-17-2003, 01:29 PM
3rd prop shot glute.. no pain...
lovin it......

rooster1
01-18-2003, 02:07 AM
1st prop shot.No pain at all.Zilch.Very smooth.I expect awesome gains from this product.I can tell someone takes pride in their work!

bowbow
01-19-2003, 04:29 PM
I'm taking there sust and deca, Just did sixth shot this morning. All shots have had pain that remained for days in the shot area but gets progressively less painful with each shot. The first one was a bitch.

MacGyver
01-20-2003, 03:37 AM
I agree, it depends on the person and what they are using. Prop often hurts for most people. Through EQ or Deca in with it and I can almost guarantee it wont hurt.

rooster1
01-20-2003, 10:55 AM
I don't know how much of a difference this makes,I just do it for safety sake.But,I always swab the rubber with alcohol b4 drawing from the bottle.Swab the injection site b4 and after the injection and place a bandaid on the site w/ a little neosporin.Sometimes I'm not sure if its making a difference,but I try to follow a protocol for safety.

gearedup
01-21-2003, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by bowbow
I'm taking there sust and deca, Just did sixth shot this morning. All shots have had pain that remained for days in the shot area but gets progressively less painful with each shot. The first one was a bitch.

Expect some pain with the suatanon that is expected and the company even says that some people will get pain from ther sustanon! All the others have seemdd to be pain free for most people! A few people report pain but the majority say it is pain free!

rooster1
01-21-2003, 11:41 AM
5th prop inj. today.No pain and feelin' Jacked.

gonzaox
01-21-2003, 06:27 PM
Been doing 1 cc of the prop in each of my forearms for 2 weeks, the motherfuckers have swole about 1 "!!! A bit of pain , but man it's fucking worth it!!!! The shit goes through a 29ga pin!!! Good shit man!

Gonz

basskiller
01-21-2003, 06:29 PM
I wish i had some...

gonzaox
01-21-2003, 06:46 PM
I thought injecting my forearms would keep me from beating off so much from the pain, but fuck man....shit aint working....barely any pain. Going to have to try the tren/prop.

Gonz

Bass you want some of mine? SIKE!!!!!!lol