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Harvey Balboner
02-27-2003, 08:17 PM
Any ideas on how to make a pain free 1 Test injectable? I have some powder coming soon, and am very interested in getting this when off cycle.

I know it can be done, Pat Arnold has made one, also research kits now sells a pain free version.

I was also thinking about mixing it with injectable B12, since it helps with painful injections.

Harvey Balboner
02-27-2003, 08:17 PM
One idea from Goanna from Animals board. Not sure if this would do it.

“Pain Free” Sterile 1-Test Injection

Ingredients;
1250mg 1-test ester
8750mg Hydroxy-Propyl Beta Cyclodextrin (HPB)
22ml Sterile Cottonseed oil (or other USP sterile oil)/or bat water.
5ml Benzyl Alcohol (or 50/50 BA/BB)

Equipment, Accessories;
25ml sterile syringe
3 ml sterile syringe
.45 Whatman Sterile Syringe Filter
3 18g 1.5 sterile needles
1 25-30ml Sterile Vial with Stopper and Seal
2 25ml glass vials (screw top)
Milligram scale
Wax paper

Procedure;
1. Place a small piece of wax paper on the scale and weigh out the required amount of 1-test powder. Set Aside.
2. Place another piece of wax paper on scale and weigh out the HPB. Set this aside.
3. Place 5ml of Benzyl Alcohol into a clean vial and add the above powders. Shake vigorously several times and let sit for 45 minutes to 1 hour. You may heat in hot water during the last 10-15 minutes as more of the product will go into solution at higher temperatures.
4. Put an 18g needle on the 3ml syringe and withdraw 2-3ml of oil into the syringe. Re-cap the needle and set aside for later use.
5. Add the remaining oil to the Benzyl Alcohol Solution. Cap the vial and shake vigorously. Let the mixed solution sit for another 45 to 60 minutes, again heating the solution during the last 15 minutes.
6. After the solution is heated, Place an 18g needle on the 25ml syringe and withdraw all the contents of the vial. (At this stage, you may want to pre heat your oven to 250 degrees Fahrenheit)
7. Remove the needle and attach the sterile filter to the syringe. Re-attach the needle to the sterile filter.
8. Begin to sterile filter the solution into the 25ml sterile vial. Be sure to use the third needle to vent the bottle in order to eliminate pressure buildup.
9. When all the solution has been filtered, remove the 25ml syringe and attach the 3 ml syringe to the filter. Now purge the sterile oil through the filter to make sure all the active ingredients are in the vial, not the filter.
10. Remove the syringe/filter combination and place the sterile vial on a small baking pan. Place the vial in the 250 degree oven for 45 minutes. Make sure to leave the 18g needle in the vial so that pressure will escape during heating.
11. When the 45 minutes is up, remove the vial from the oven and let cool. You now have a sterile, oil based solution that contains 50mg of 1-testosterone ester and 350mg of HPB per ml. of solution. Enjoy

skeeber
02-28-2003, 01:43 PM
I got a question for you, Harvey. Why would you want to run 1-Test? Wouldn't it shut you down just like test? And from what I've seen it is more expensive. Just curious.

Harvey Balboner
02-28-2003, 02:59 PM
I just want to figure out how to do it.

Gains are pretty good for this stuff, from what I have read it doesn't completely shut down natural test level like test would.

I can get 10 grams for a little less than what 10 grams of cyp powder costs.

OvER JuIcED
02-28-2003, 03:29 PM
What type of cycle would you run the 1-test like mg and how often?

What could you do to keep test levels up while on 1-test?

Researchkits is supposed to be painless anybody tried it ?

Harvey Balboner
02-28-2003, 04:07 PM
You would need to inject 100mg ed for 6-12 weeks. Still researching about test levels. Thoughts are calias, or tribulas, from what I have seen it is more of a decrease in libido, than natural test levels.

Kiss
08-20-2003, 11:41 PM
Harv did you ever end up trying this?

Harvey Balboner
08-21-2003, 11:28 AM
no, I never got the powder, the guy that was going to give me some as a sample decided to sell it as a premade himself.

I read on animals board that a guy made 1test cyp in oil with 3% ba & 10% BB he said it was pretty painless.

There is another site that sells a supersolvent for 1test, I'll try to find the address.

Kiss
08-21-2003, 12:25 PM
Thanks harv you da man.

Also, is it possible to get 4AD in solution?

Kiss
08-21-2003, 07:49 PM
Harv, 10% and 3% is the percent of final volume correct?

So if I am making 100ml it would have 10ml BB and 3ml BA, and 87ml of oil, correct?

Harvey Balboner
08-21-2003, 07:59 PM
just about you forgot to include the weight of the powder, it takes up about .75 ml per gram ie 2 grams take up 1.5 ml of the final solution.

I would only do that with 1 or 2 grams to start with incase it doesn't work too well.

I know 4 ad goes into an injectable pretty easy, if I find anything about it, I'll let you know.

Kiss
08-22-2003, 12:58 AM
Harv, on Animal's board I read you can only get about 250mg/ml max of 1-test in oil, have you heard any different?

Thanks for all your help...:thumbsup:

Harvey Balboner
08-22-2003, 12:59 AM
sounds about right if it is 1 test cyp

regular 1 test would be pretty painful anywhere over 100mg/ml

Kiss
08-22-2003, 01:12 AM
Harv, I will probably not use 4-AD, I heard it is crap. Do you know if 5 alpha androstenediol (5AA), 3 beta androstenediol, or 4 hydroxy androstenedione will go into solution readily?

Kiss
09-11-2003, 06:22 PM
Harv,

I am trying to make 175mg/ml of 1-test and I can't get it to go into solution. I added 3% BA and 15% BB. It is cloudy and I have been heating it with the oil added. Any thoughts?

learner202
09-11-2003, 06:24 PM
Harvey I always see u up in making stuff. Is is better to make it bro? Is it hard?

yelis300
09-11-2003, 08:18 PM
Originally posted by OvER JuIcED
What type of cycle would you run the 1-test like mg and how often?

What could you do to keep test levels up while on 1-test?

Researchkits is supposed to be painless anybody tried it ?


I have done researchkits 1-test injectible. It actually feels fine for the first day and the second and third day is a bitch. the pain sneaks up on you. i only did 100mg/ml inj. after doing one cc of it i didnt want to try 2 cc's so i still have some left. Im not real sure what my pain threshold is but i had done a small cycle of sten years ago and that was nothing compared to this. better left as a dermal if you ask me.

Old Guy
09-11-2003, 10:48 PM
100 mg/ml is about the limit for 1-test cyp.
Get your pain free solution @ eagle research.
I will post the link if this is acceptable.

Kiss
09-11-2003, 11:49 PM
Damn, I heard people getting 175mg/ml into solution.

Well, I guess I'll have to add more oil, BA, and BB.

yelis300
09-11-2003, 11:50 PM
i apologize for the above statement. actually the 1-test i did was from eagle research and it was 1-test cyp. 100mg/ml I have never tried it from researchkits.com

yelis300
09-11-2003, 11:52 PM
dont forget to post how painful that is.:D

Harvey Balboner
09-12-2003, 09:20 AM
yelis, what kind of results did you get from the 1 test?

Old Guy
09-12-2003, 02:08 PM
Damn, I heard people getting 175mg/ml into solution.

I'm not saying it can't be done, but 100 mg/ml is what Dazed settled with for his stuff. I think he tried it at 200 mg/ml and it wouldn't stay in the solution.

Kiss
09-12-2003, 06:10 PM
I know it is painful, I was going to inject it with other stuff.

yelis300
09-12-2003, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by Harvey Balboner
yelis, what kind of results did you get from the 1 test?

I actually only did 2 inj. 1cc waited 4 day then another cc.
after that i stopped the injections and used some super one+ from 1fast400. Reason is i couldnt see myself going up to almost 3 or 3 1/2 cc in one shot to make a cycle out of it. the 1cc hurt enough so i guess i pussied out. well if i had in a higher mg/ml solution i might have tried 2cc at once but i dont have that strong of a solution. sorry i dont have any results for you harvey.

Kiss
09-15-2003, 12:33 AM
I cannot get the stuff to go into solution at 100mg/ml. I used 3% BA and 15% BB. I might have to try animal's solution.

skinny23
09-15-2003, 03:53 AM
Just a thought:

It might be possible to make a solution more "pain-free" by adding a small amount of a local anesthetic such as lidocaine or procaine (though illegal, cocaine is also a local anesthetic- it's used in eye surgery). NOTE that lidocaine and like compounds have profound effects on the heart when used IV.
Also, I could see one's entire ass going numb for some time post injection.
This is just a thought... A lot could go wrong.... But I wonder if such a thing could work?