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Elmosback
04-10-2003, 07:04 PM
I bought some Tornel super Test 250, has anyone here used it and how much and what kind of results did you get?

I also bought some Tornel b12 100- injectable 30ml vial. Its a red color liquid. How much do I need and can I mix it with my juice?

mbstrong
04-11-2003, 12:26 PM
Never took it before.......

BuMp

Elmoduplaya
04-11-2003, 07:53 PM
thanks bro, anyone else?

jshoty
04-11-2003, 09:27 PM
heard its the same quality as brovel stuff, but ive never used it before.

bigjosh
04-12-2003, 12:03 AM
I personally thing tornel is low quality like brovel. It will work though just may be underdosed. I heard there sust really isn't sust but some other test.

bigshug
04-12-2003, 12:43 AM
Next go 'round, try QV or EQL ....quality's definitely better

Elmoduplaya
04-12-2003, 01:14 AM
Thanks all, that answers my first question. Now for the b12 I am kind of scared of using it because its blood red color looking and its also made by tornel. I didn't think my source was gonna get vet type. What do you bros think. Should I take it or forget it. I also can't read if its water or oil based. How much do you guys take and does it really make a difference? All feed back would be great.

bigjosh
04-12-2003, 02:45 PM
does b12 really make a difference... I honestly do not know about it when used alone. Secondly don't worry about the blood red color. All b12 i've ever seen is purple/red. and you don't need to worry about what brand your b12 is...it's just a vitamin...pretty hard to fuck that up...lol... Also, i would bet it's water based. I have never heard of oil based vitamins. All you gotta do is shake the bottle and look at the liquid. Water acts alot dif than oil. Just look at how fast the bubbles move through it, but I'm 99.999% sure it's water based and u can use a slin needle for it.

Joemomma
12-01-2004, 05:28 PM
does anyone know how much of that super test 250 should you take

irishpride
12-01-2004, 05:38 PM
more then normal cuz its underdosed shit...

Joemomma
12-01-2004, 05:50 PM
But if this is my first cycle how much of the 250 should I take

AZ1
12-01-2004, 07:15 PM
try 2 cc's a week for like 10 weeks if ur supply will last

Crimsonsweat
12-02-2004, 12:19 AM
if its t250 then its like 177mg/ml of test doesnt matter which kind there are slow and fast acting so space the shot 2mls week every 4 days, should be sufficient.
tornel is cheap and very underdosed but its cheap price should be a reasonable trade off.

also i dont trust them IMO, because they dont have great sterility either.

the b12 can be orally consumed bro, u dont have to inject it, it will work the same take it an hour before workouts, for the best results.

good luck and like it was mentioned if you do any other go with QV, fort dodge, IP or another proven company with good quality and potency.

Geneticfreak
12-02-2004, 02:10 AM
Bro, don't mix the B-12 with the test. Since the B-12 is water based and the test oil based, it will leave you with one hell of a lump under you skin. For best results B-12 needs to be injected. Your body destroys too much of it when taken orally. If the B-12 you have is 1000mcg's then just take 1ml/ed. It will help to increase your appetite and give you some extra energy for your workouts.

Joemomma
12-02-2004, 02:21 PM
Thanks for the info I also have some D Bol tablets should I take those too everyday?