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Sachet
04-25-2003, 02:23 PM
Genetically modified organisms {GMOs} are in the food we eat and the crop fields around us, even though there is no evidence that they are safe for our health or safe for the natural ecology {long term}.
Biotech firms, which are simply chemical companies, are altering life itself by artificially modifying genes to produce plants that could never have evolved naturally.


What are your feelings regarding having to consume genetically modified crops?

BLEED GREEN
04-25-2003, 02:28 PM
I have to consider that the reason I came to this website originally was to learn about artificially raising my testosterone level...something that would not have occured naturally....

Sachet
04-25-2003, 02:30 PM
Yep, you can never be 'too' educated greenie ;)

Sachet
04-25-2003, 02:31 PM
This whole food genetic engineering has me wondering what types of bugs we'll all be seeing ten years down the road.
*wide eyes*

Choke03
04-25-2003, 02:31 PM
That is a deep subject, I wish the retailers would be forced to tell the public that this paricular food has such alterations and we have no clue if you will get symptoms from it in the future. Such as a 3rd nipple, or cancer.

Sachet
04-25-2003, 02:33 PM
Well, I'm sure cancer will come into play because these plants are sprayed with stronger pesticides..

Choke03
04-25-2003, 02:35 PM
3rd nipples ??

BLEED GREEN
04-25-2003, 02:36 PM
Not all bad......

Sachet
04-25-2003, 02:37 PM
*LOL*
I dunno about the third nipple, but would that really be a bad thingy? :p

BLEED GREEN
04-25-2003, 02:39 PM
One would think that a modified plant could be made more resistant and need less pesticides to protect it-something that would be built into its new DNA structure.

Sachet
04-25-2003, 02:40 PM
That's true, but more resistant plants bring on stronger bugs.

BLEED GREEN
04-25-2003, 02:49 PM
good point-just like building a tolorance for certain antibiotics

Sachet
04-25-2003, 02:49 PM
What about the weeds that surround these 'altered' plants, ya know?
GMOs could end up genetically polluting surrounding plants if genes transfer to them. If a transfer takes place, then the herbicide resistant genes could actually turn simple weeds into 'superweeds' & farmers would need to increase their usage more toxic farm chemicals. So in the end, I dunno if it really pays because the soil is taking more of a beating from the stronger weed killers.
I wonder if that would threaten the beneficial insects too..

Sachet
04-25-2003, 02:51 PM
What about the poor worms *lol*
Maybe they'd all end up being 'night crawler' size *shivers*

BLEED GREEN
04-25-2003, 02:54 PM
So eventually everything mutates(including humans):uhoh:

auriflex
04-25-2003, 06:02 PM
My wife will kill me far earlier than any disease. LIVE LIFE! Vida Loca or whatever. I don't even speak spanish.

bigshug
04-25-2003, 09:16 PM
this is a subject that I'm pretty upset about...."they", whoever they are, say that girls are starting their ovulatory cycles earlier and are experiencing increased breast size and that guys are experiencing smaller genital size overall from the female hormones pumped into meats such as chicken to yeild larger breasts.......that's not even taking into account the pesticides and antibiotics that we injest when we eat these same food items

Badgermoon
04-25-2003, 09:21 PM
I don't think plants cross pollenate, so weeds won't become geneticly different from being near altered crops. To keep insects from adapting to the new altered crops, a ring of regular crops is planted around the altered ones. The bugs that survive off of regular plants breed with the ones eating the altered ones. That way, the offspring don't come from only bugs that eat the new plants, and don't become resistant.

Sachet
04-26-2003, 03:06 PM
bigshug~ hormones are a very powerful thing & it just goes to show ya, we're starting to see the results of our food sources being injected with them in human offspring.
I don't like the idea of antibiotics being used in place of proper cleaning either.. pesticides are stripping the soil of nutrients & poisening us and good bugs.


I don't think plants cross pollenate either, badger.
And I just read something last night about the crop ring you wrote about :) I wish I could remember the site now, but dummie me didn't add it to my favorites.
I also read that the University of Chicago {pretty sure that was the uni} did a study where they found that engineered plants {genetically modified crops} were 20 times more likely to transfer their genes {cross pollinate} to related weed species than natural hybrids would. So through the transfers to 'related plants' {weeds}, GMOs with herbicide resistance genes could turn weeds into what they called superweeds.

There was also a study conducted at Cornell University that showed something scarey. It showed that Monarch butterfly larvae that fed on genetically modified {corn} plant leaves dusted with pollen ate less, grew faster & died sooner.

Sachet
04-26-2003, 03:14 PM
I kept jumping from link to link last night, but I came across some pretty interesting eye opening things.
For instance, it's not just corn they've been toying with.. soy, canola & cottonseed are other ingredients that commonly come from plants that have been genetically altered.
We're talking millions of acres being grown in the U.S.A.
Soy derivatives {lecithin} are contained in 60% to 70% of all processed food.
I don't consume many processed foods, but my neices & nephews do.

Sachet
04-26-2003, 03:17 PM
:p
Last post, cross my heart *lol*
What I don't get is how these products can be sold without some type of warning stating that ingredients from genetically modified plants have been used.

Badgermoon
04-27-2003, 03:27 AM
Serious stuff, I agree. If it goes wrong, there's no putting the genie back in the bottle.