Pre-show gear

I can't seem to find an answer-I know the EQ stops monday before the show-run the winny and tren right on through(got another show 3 weeks later)-what about the Prop??-Also is 3 weeeks enough time between shows to recover from a shitload??
Thanks guys-rippedchef

rippedchef

IMO I would pull out EQ earlier than that, pref several weeks before and then just come in on the Prop, Winny and Tren

I would stop the Prop 7-10 days out, the Winny 48 hrs before and MAYBE keep the Tren in to keep levels of this non-aromatising androgen high. A good anti-e (Femara or Aromasin) would also be a useful adjunct.

Many will disagree and just run the gear all the way through, I find that dropping all but the bare essentials will assist in getting totally ripped and separated. You wont lose size in a couple of days (esp if you load up correctly) and if you are totally shredded you can crush bigger guys.

Oh, yeah, 3 weeks is plenty time to recover from a shitload.

Best of luck mate

IM92

iceman92 said:

rippedchef

IMO I would pull out EQ earlier than that, pref several weeks before and then just come in on the Prop, Winny and Tren

I would stop the Prop 7-10 days out, the Winny 48 hrs before and MAYBE keep the Tren in to keep levels of this non-aromatising androgen high. A good anti-e (Femara or Aromasin) would also be a useful adjunct.

Many will disagree and just run the gear all the way through, I find that dropping all but the bare essentials will assist in getting totally ripped and separated. You wont lose size in a couple of days (esp if you load up correctly) and if you are totally shredded you can crush bigger guys.

Oh, yeah, 3 weeks is plenty time to recover from a shitload.

Best of luck mate

IM92

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Exactly what I'd have said except I keep the winny and tren right thru. And I recently did 2 shows 2 weeks apart and had no problem recovering from the 1st shitload, only took about 2-3 days to get the water under control. Now the 2nd shitload took me over a week to recover, but doesn't matter since I'm done competing til next year.
KR

This is such an ongoing debate and quite frankly, I can't tell the difference whether I cut everything out or keep it all in and just make sure that anti-e levels are high enough to counter estrogen kickback. I have never had problems with progesterone, either.

Either with clients or myself, I just don't see any obvious differences between dropping the gear or keeping it in. You should probably just go the route you are most comfortable with.
I will say that I have seen pics of you, rippedchef, and from your condition I would doubt that if you had enough anti-e's, you would have any problem with condition keeping everything in there.
That is just my opinion though.

There is also the argument that the oil itself can cause you to look smoother. I can't agree with this one either because I went against all advice for my last show and kept syntherol in my delts at about 8ml every other day until only 3 days out and there was NO indication at all from my condition that I had that much oil in me. I was hard as nails so I can't give that argument much validity, either.

Again, just my experience.

Skip

i have been researching this topic also. i plan on doing a show in 5 weeks then another 5 weeks later. i know i will not be as tight for the first one but will compete as a heavyweight about 200-205. I was going to run fina,winny, prop and eq through the first show dont want to get off track. Then for the second drop the eq 4 weeks out, the prop 2 1/2 weeks add halo in @ 25mg ed and continue with the fina and winny. How does this sound to you guys?? The first show just came along and i may do it if i am ready i am really gunning for the 2nd one.

bigdan

Sounds like a sound approach to me.

Skip, 8 ml synth EOD? All I can say is OUCH!! I do agree with you that oil alone administered via Im inj will not make you smooth, it is the active AAS that you need to consider. For example, everyone likes to run Tren through to the show and Parabolan had a cult following when it was around but these are oil-based solutions.

IM92

iceman92 said:

Skip, 8 ml synth EOD? All I can say is OUCH!!

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LOL
It was 1ml in front delt, 1ml in rear delt and 3 sites in the side for 1ml each so I don't know where the hell I came up with 8ml - it was only 5ml per delt complex every other day.
It wasn't painful at all actually. It also didn't add anywhere near what I thought it would. These guys who add inches to arms and such must be using bottle after bottle of this shit. I just wanted to round out the shoulders a bit for some added shape.

Skip

Thanks for all the responses-I'm gonna stop the EQ the Monday before and run the Tren,Prop,Winny through Saturday-2mg Liquidex ED for the last week-I'll make any changes for the 2nd show(NQ) according to my results-again-Thank You!!!

let us know how it goes, and what you dropped when, be4 the show dates.

rippedchef - keep us posted mate.

Skip - Re the synth. You took the words out of my mouth. When I see these pictures of guys with obviously over-enhanced arms and delts from using synth I find myself wondering how fuckin much they must have jammed in there to get such outrageous "growth" (if it can be called that).

Personally I am not a big fan of these products but agree they have their place as a last minute cosmetic trick. To add inches to a bodypart is a very different story.

Maybe I am just a bit old fashioned........

I would drop the prop bro, keep winny and tren is, maybe ad suspension to go into show with and some halo, and i would ad nolva 8 days out along with the other anti e of choice, just my 2 cents

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rippedchef - keep us posted mate.

Skip - Re the synth. You took the words out of my mouth. When I see these pictures of guys with obviously over-enhanced arms and delts from using synth I find myself wondering how fuckin much they must have jammed in there to get such outrageous "growth" (if it can be called that).

Personally I am not a big fan of these products but agree they have their place as a last minute cosmetic trick. To add inches to a bodypart is a very different story.

Maybe I am just a bit old fashioned........

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I battled with using it for quite sometime. I don't particularly like the stuff, either. However, I have come to the conclusion that if it is used in moderation that it can enhance a muscle's look. If abused, it will make you look retarded.

Skip

Fair point Skip

regards

IM92