I ordered a set from APT. I have owned a lot of differnt straps over the years and these seem to be by far the best quality set I have ever had. I'll be trying them out tomorrow. I'm not supposed to be doing anything that requires straps but I'll maybe throw in some shrugs just so I can give them a try. The only thing that does concern me a bit is that I ordered them with the antiwear strip. This looks a lot like the same material that the straps I got from ironmind are made of. Slippery as hell. I'll post my results after shrugs tomorrow.