Does BA destroy igf-1 r3?

Hey bros, need some info here....i have been here quite awhile but this is my first post, trying to find out why the igf-1 r3 did not work well for a few friends and i am interested in trying just want to make sure i end up with better results...thanks

Mighty Mouse,

What you should do is use the boards search function, type in L3IGF-1 and you should get all the posts on the subject.

To ask on this is like our resident experts going at it all over again.

Your research should give you the much needed info which you seek.

Should you have questions after that, please don't hesitate in asking.

IGF is like HGH some have amazing results and others have next to no results. It all depends on how your body reacts to it. Also you have to take ointo account that not all suppliers are legit and if your bro got it from different sites it will very in quality.

BA will not destroy the IGF at least to my knowledge. As far as no gains? Well that'd be hard to tell. How was your diet? Training? Doseage? Inject times? Who did you get your IGF from? Could it have been mishandled?

This post has been edited due to it's contents which is violation of our board rules.

mightmouse,
Yes over time BA will destroy IGF-1LR3.

Here is why once and for freakin' all!!!!!!

IGF needs:
1) an acidic environment and BA is not acidic in fact it is less than acidic than tap water

2) to be kept frozen to ensure no degradation.....unless you're freezer can attain an absolute zero temp. (impossible) then the BA can't freeze


As for as shipping IGF in BA:
it is highly unstable and will degrade in shipping (noise, vibrations, etc can make the amino acid chain come apart) it is very fragile and you will have a very weakend dose of IGF

Look for the other post I recenlty bumped with my username as author. I'll make it a sticky when I learn how to use that trick.

Have you ever tried it P 13. I have seen atleast 100 vets and pro's swear to the gains from IGF constituted in BA. As a matter of fact I remember last summer the owner of this board swore he never used a product that gave such incredible type of gains.
It was the reason I went ahead and tried it, and I am glad Presser wrote that. The stuff is amazing.

IF YOU READ MY POSTS YOU WILL SEE I DID NOT (DO NOT) STATE IGF WILL NOT WORK IN BA!! HOWEVER, I DO STATE IT WILL DEGRADE FASTER, IT IS NEEDLESLY MORE PAINFUL AND IT IS STUPID TO USE IT DUE TO ITS LOW PH WHICH DOESN'T MEET MANUFACTURER'S SPECS AND REQ'S.

READ AGAIN....and no I have never used IGF with BA. I'll pass on that and activate it the correct way. If I want some pain I guess I could needlessly just add some more BA in my other injectables just for the hell of it. Why not I heard all the people on Animal's board do it?...duhhh

Mattaleo,
Have you ever tried it activated the correct way? I doubt it strongly. If you did you would surely know (without question) how strong it truely is.

I have had IGF mixed in BA in storage for over a year in a freezer and it workd the same as the day it was made. Your talking speculation, IGF in BA is fine.

I'm talking speculation based upon facts you're talking specualation which is highly doubtful. How could you tell if a multivitamin works compared to one that doesn't work? Exactly! You can't unless it's tested. If you were to find out though what the cytokine IGF-1R3 requires to maintain stability and maximize it's potency and slow degradation then you would know BA is not smart and would prove it can't work over a prolonged period of time.

Get a clue and do some reading and research....did you not read the sticky I posted. Much of that information is from the manufacturer Gropep who is the only producer in the world and owns the patents?

Does BA freeze? NO IT DOESN'T!!
Does BA have a high pH? NO IT DOESN'T!!
Both are requirements stated by the manufacturer who HAS TESTED IT AND RECORDED THE INFORMATION.

ACTIVATION OF IGF-1R3 WITH BA MAKES IT HIGHLY UNSTABLE!! READ THE FACTS IN THE STICKY (FROM THE MANUFACTURER) AND STOP MAKING POSTS STATING IT WORKS SIMPLY B/C MANY OTHER PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW SHIT ABOUT CYTOKINES OR ACTIVATING THEM SAY SO. DON'T BE A LEMMING GO TO THE MANUFACTURERS WEBSITE IF YOU LIKE OR CALL THEM DIRECTLY AND ASK WHAT THEY THINK OF ACTIVATING IT WITH BA IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE ME!!!!

You could probably activate GH with BA too. But why would you when there are smarter ways and other ways that are more appropriate and tested to work such as sterile water and/or BaW??

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Hey guys, you should lisent to Proud. I hardly post here, but i have done a TON of research on IGF-1.....and other growth factors like MGF, FGF, Interleukin-15....it goes on and on, it just really interests me.....i was like a man possesed. Anyways, from everything i've read online from medical journals and basic info about protein structures and benzyl alcohol itself......i'll agree with proud that BA is not the best way to store it. Proud isnt saying that BA destroys IGF on impact.....he's just trying to look out for you and let you know it just degrades faster in that solution. He's only saying that if you have a CHOICE between the two, and you can indeed get a pure powder hookup, the lyophilized form reconstituted in an acidic environment is better. But besides all that, the man is a biochemist for crying out loud.....you cant really argue with him about something like this. Its like trying to give jenna jameson pointers on giving head!

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The insert that came with my lyophilized GroPep IGF-I Long R3 says it just like Proud13.

Thank you EJA1979 and Cordoba.

EJA1979 did you ever decide to use that crazy stack you talked about awhile back or are you waiting to hit the lotto before you can...lol?

You have a pm also.

What do suggest we dilute the Powder in Proud? Have tried with BA and was not impressed at all. Anyone know a supplier that sells not diluted? any help is appreciated. Thanks Bro's

It's very hard to get access to powdered IGF-1R3. The reason most UG people (the ones who have access illegitamately)sell it in BA is so they can buy in large quantities or bulk for cheaper than 1mg and reconstitute it then break it up into 1mg doses or vials and sell it off for a large profit.

You have a PM sus250 that may help.

Thanks for the Advice

Check the Sticky I made on IGF up top to get advice on activating it from legitamete lyopholized powder form which puts the IGF-1R3 in a more stable form and meets manufacturer specs but without hCl but with simple vinegar (acetic acid) instead.

Proud have you used your vinegar method and stored it for long periods of time? I have 5mg and after I reconstitue it would probably be 6 months until it was used up. I'd rather go with hCl but its harder to get and harder to dilute.

proud you are asshole, it seems who ever dont agree with you you call names and yes i have studied longer than you and that means more than haveing a phd ,which you can shove up your ass ,and the only reason i am calling you names is cause thats what you are doing to other people,just cause you have a phd dose not mean you know more than someone who dosent have a phd,also just cause you say you have a phd that dosent mean you do cause a lot of people say a lot of bullshit when they are siiting behind a computor but the amazing thing to me is you are a site adm.and you call people dummys cause they dont agree with you ,there are other opinions than yours,and anyone can go to the gropep site and read what you have read ,so what?as i said before whoever i know that used igf-1 mixed with BA works also and it lasts a long time in that medium ,which by the way the info that gropep gives on mixing is for research,and also they are a bunch of rats cause they reported to the govt.sources that were selling their product ,which they had bought from them ,so in my mind they are a bunch of squealing rats ,and you know what some other comp would have perfected igf-1 also its just that gropep did it first so they were able to get patent rights but if they didnt do it another comp.would have also i will live for a long time since i have lots of knowledge on antiageing supp which i use .this is he last time i will come to this site cause i dont need to argue with some arrogant moron who attacks people cause they dont agree with him,there are many ways to get to the one ,not just one way ,i am sure you will answer this reply with nastiness ,but between you and me i know you are a ignorant asshole and what ever you say wont change my mind and by the way i use igf-1 IM and get no pain,and get good results,