I need to vent

A little background here...got a real good freind, guy who got me into lifting in the first place. He is naturally big, nice frame 6 foot 230 or so, bf is a little high, but still looks nice and large. Well the guys drinks too much IMO. Never used AS untill about 4 months ago I made him some var I'm all for a good weekend but He was getting shitty 3-4 times a wk while on var. I don't care what your opinion is on var's liver toxity, its not healty to wash the shit down with a pitcher of beer and shot of jack every other day.

So were at the bar last night and he's about half corked as usual and he we start talk lifting, mention of my future cycle comes up and gives me shit. Saying your big enough, you gonna fuck your self up, you think you know hwat your doing but sometime your gonna be wrong...etc. I appreciate the guys concern but this shit went on for about 20min, as I tried to explain and defend myself he kept cutting me off and getting under my skin. I mean here is a guy who is ruining himself living for the moment with a bottle of jack in his hand and he is lecturing me about being dedicated to improving myself? I got a little pissy told him shut the fuck up and left the bar shorty after that, he really had me hot. This is a common occurance to, it seems well intented, but its annoying as all hell. Help me out here, how do I deal with this? He is a good guy, I don't want to avoid him, but I hate fucking hypocrits. You think that a 'freind' would understand you goals and show a little support even if thats not their game....or at least not act he's my father. Anyway, thanks for listening guys had to get that off my chest since all my freinds would side with him, I can't bitch to anyone else.

Have you ever talked to him about it when he is sober? You want to do the right thing- but I don't think it will ever be resolved if the guy is tanked. People say shit when they are drunk, and its probably not a good thing especially when friends are concerned.

If he is the one who seeks you out for socialising then the next time he contacts you lay it out to him that you do not need the negativity he is directing toward you.
If you are the one who initiates contact then just seperate yourself from him for a week or so.
If he is getting drunk 3x a week then he needs his family to intervene with his drinking. Drinking buddies are pretty useless for such intervention.

i agree with mmx2 talk to him sober -- people say crap when they are drunk or tired they don't relly mean. if he is a friend at least give it that much of chance. if he is still a jerk then u can walk away without any regrets.

same shit used to happen to me all the time by a hypocritical friend. he gets drunk off 2 beers, but says he's just "buzzed". then he gets on his high horse and there's no stopping him. i almost ended up cracking his skull one night when this happened and we haven't really hung out since.

My best friend, the only person that I really hang out with, does the same shit I do and is just as interested in Bodybuilding as I am, so I really don't have to worry about that happening. I guess what I'm saying is, find a new friend, and only tell those who you FULLY trust about your usage.

Cannons said:

My best friend, the only person that I really hang out with, does the same shit I do and is just as interested in Bodybuilding as I am, so I really don't have to worry about that happening. I guess what I'm saying is, find a new friend, and only tell those who you FULLY trust about your usage.

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My two cents is tell no-one -- certainly not anyone you aren't married to or living with. Even telling your significant other can be a problem as it can become a tool to get at you should the relationship go south.

fuck m8 he is pissed forget it

How old is the guy? Just curious because it sounds all too familiar...Anyway..look.. if the guy is drinking that much, more than likely there are a lot more problems that have nothing to do with body building or working out...especially if he is an older guy....don't even worry about addressing the body building issues until you find out what the issues are behind the drinking and can change them...ie boredom, relationship problems, financial , work..whatever...

ha.... we might have the same friends

Personally, I'd get a new friend. I don't need drama in my life. Being drunk is never an excuse for anything in my books. There's also no excuse for being an asshole.

same problem here. Friend of mine has been going down hill for the last 5 years. Now its to the point where he's just no fun anymore. I put up with it maybe one day a year now, just to check in.... but other than that, I've wrote him off.

well...

If he's getting lit up that much you may want to ask him why. Here's the biggest problem with this situation:
1---You are gonna get defensive about steroids.
2---He is gonna get defensive about driking.

So basically you guys are gonna have a war unless you sit him down sober and explain to him what you're doing, what your plan is, and why its safe for you to use.

And you may want to ask him why he drinks so much BUT then you must say----MUST SAY--->because i am concerned about your health. If the man drinks that often he's gonna get defensive. You're going to have to look far beyond the driking to find out why he feels he must alter his reality as much as he does.

The two of you could battle each other for hours about right and wrong. The best thing to do is go into it with an open mind and whatever you do do not attack him for drinking. Instead, explain your side to him and what you're doing to make your experience as safe as possible.

Jacked

too weird....

I don't think it's the drinking fellas.....sounds like a buddy of mine....kind of overbearing and oppinionated. Yes, drinking may amplify it but a person of strong oppinion doesn't mean to be annoying but they just are with that "know it all" f*cking attitude....but your their friend so what do you do???? Eventually you will have to just tell the guy straight up.....most real men appreciate honesty...I know I do.....don't pussy foot ....tell him what you think and go from there(sober of course)....if he gets pissed and dis-owns your ass then he wasn't much of a friend or mentor anyway was he????
Just my .02

Well it came up a few days later, and I told him I 'd listen to what he has to say when he sits down and does a little research and has some facts to back up his arguement. He is basing it on what the media has potrayed and his lack of understanding on AS in general. Well that was to much trouble,"I dont have time"....etc. was his excuse. So I thanked him for his concern about my health and told him I didn't want to hear a damn thing else till it was factual and not some hear say rumor shit. I have adresses the drinking issue beofre, properly and have had no luck. He has gotten better but the kid has had some shit happen and it his escape form it. I told him, I deal with his issues and he if he can't except mine and stop bring them up at bad times(drunk or in public) then I'm not gonna put myself in those situations anymore......so basically its a truce for now.

i had to do the same thing brew, i had a friend that brought up my use in the worst possible times...all so he could say he was the friend of the guy who uses steroids. he even used to talk to people about it while i wasn't around, and even gave out my # to a bunch of guys who said they wanted to do it. i had guys i didn't know calling me all the time asking for juice, it was ridiculous. he even showed a bunch of these guys where i keep my stuff when i used to live with him, that pissed me off to no end. hopefully you guys can still be friends.

I got a buddy like that. I dont go out drinking with him anymore, were still great friends. Just not drinking buddies. After a while he got the point that the one with the problem was him. When he was drinking alot it was like a Dr jeckel and Mr hyde thing. I think they call this alcoholizm.