hi im just curious if any sesame oil can be used for homebrew, because i can get a litre of it at a grocerie store for a dollar where as over the net it can get expensive, aslong as i sterlize it in the oven is there much of a difference? im about to make a lot so i want to save as much money as possible
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people use store bought oil, but i wouldn't do that myself. sesame oil is used all the time for homebrews. i guess i your health is worth saving some money then go for it, but i'll stick to our site sponsor BGP-labs.
paperbolix
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I use store bought sesame and heat it up prior, the only reason I use store bought is the lab supply company is located in another country and when I buy BB and BA it goes through but one time when it was a big order, they opened and asked me what the lab stuff was for, I told them I was developing film and they gave it to me, but since then I try to keep the lab supply orders to only the stuff that I really need..
I just saw this thing of pictures of the zencal lab and they were using store bought Wesson vegtable oil
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I just saw this thing of pictures of the zencal lab and they were using store bought Wesson vegtable oil
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paperbolix
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I thought their lab looked pretty good though, it was clean and in an apartment, they were using hotplates to heat the liquids to sterilize them, at least they wern't in a dusty garage..
I always thought you had to use sesame oil because vegtable oil couldn't suspend the powder, but apparently it can because I doubt that they would be saving a few cents buying store bought vegtable oil instead of store bought sesame oil only to then be forced to use a higher % of BB and BA to get it disolved..that wouldn't be cost effective..
so why is sesame oil better then vegtable oil? i'm wondering?
I always thought you had to use sesame oil because vegtable oil couldn't suspend the powder, but apparently it can because I doubt that they would be saving a few cents buying store bought vegtable oil instead of store bought sesame oil only to then be forced to use a higher % of BB and BA to get it disolved..that wouldn't be cost effective..
so why is sesame oil better then vegtable oil? i'm wondering?
Crimsonsweat
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oils have different viscosities(weights) and better absorption rates that a human body can break down chemically without harming itself, grapeseed,sesame, cottonseed and peanut oil are all used for injection purposes, however the main ideal is to make sure its INACTIVE meaning it cannot grow or support living organisms such as bacteria or virusus..
All lab oils are heated and some break down but there is a film left on the container unless its batched where its constantly stirred and while its still hot its cold filtered and then filtered and bottled again.
when its used its brought into the open where air can get it and mixed with the proper chemicals then its filtered again into sterile equipment.
vegetable oil is an oil that when heated will breakdown to a toxin if injected, however the acid in a stomach will have no trouble breaking this down, but not the muscle tissue and blood flow from injection.
also when oil gets supersaturated like veggie oil it will gel and will not stay the same flow as others it thickens up really bad.
Peanut oil is rarely used since 7% of the worlds population is allergic to it so therefore oils like grapeseed(most commonly used in foreign countries) sesame and cottonseed oil are used.
they will maintain thier bonding properties and will mix with almost any hormone substance known to inject except a few I.E anadrol, anavar, dbol,1-testosterone base..etc
so thats why they use these oils and if and when they open your package of oil in a vial u can tell them its lab oil yes, but makes the cleanest additive to food you have ever tasted and isnt made under the same conditions as rat turd oils you buy in the store.!!!
All lab oils are heated and some break down but there is a film left on the container unless its batched where its constantly stirred and while its still hot its cold filtered and then filtered and bottled again.
when its used its brought into the open where air can get it and mixed with the proper chemicals then its filtered again into sterile equipment.
vegetable oil is an oil that when heated will breakdown to a toxin if injected, however the acid in a stomach will have no trouble breaking this down, but not the muscle tissue and blood flow from injection.
also when oil gets supersaturated like veggie oil it will gel and will not stay the same flow as others it thickens up really bad.
Peanut oil is rarely used since 7% of the worlds population is allergic to it so therefore oils like grapeseed(most commonly used in foreign countries) sesame and cottonseed oil are used.
they will maintain thier bonding properties and will mix with almost any hormone substance known to inject except a few I.E anadrol, anavar, dbol,1-testosterone base..etc
so thats why they use these oils and if and when they open your package of oil in a vial u can tell them its lab oil yes, but makes the cleanest additive to food you have ever tasted and isnt made under the same conditions as rat turd oils you buy in the store.!!!
paperbolix
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excelent info..i knew there must be a reason everyone uses sesame and grapeseed
MEATHEAD99
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Here is some info on different oils that you can use. Some should be mixed into other oils but all can be used:
1. Jojoba - It's loaded with vitamins and minerals and leaves the skin silky soft. Excellent for psoriasis, eczema, acne, and hair care too. It penetrates the skin rapidly to nourish it; also softens and moisturizes mature and dry skin. Jojoba helps to heal inflamed skin conditions such as psoriasis or any form of dermatitis, helps control acne and oily scalps. Since it has antioxidant properties, it can keep other oils from going rancid. Cautions - It is frequently blended in a small dilution (10%) with other carriers. It has a very long shelf-life.
2. Black Seed Oil - Its shelf life is at least 18 months when kept in a cool place and away from direct light. contains thymoquinone and thus may be useful as a treatment for rheumatism and related inflammatory diseases. The oil is said to contain p-cymene and thymoquinone as well as oleic acid, linoleic acid, linolenic acid. The total average sterol content of this oil is 51% and includes 63% beta-sitosterol, 17% stigmasterol, an 15% campesterol.” It's not a very liquid oil and is also safe for internal use.
3. Emu oil - Anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory, skin regenerative, high in oleic acid (oleic acid has better skin-penetrating qualities than vegetable oils), moisturizing, doesn’t clog pores, penetrates through several layers of skin. The bottle of Emu oil should be shaken ever so lightly to mix the contents prior to each use. is now being used at top hospital burn centers across the country as a crucial aid to healing burned skin tissue, aiding elasticity, lubrication and diminishing scarring. Great for arthritis pain and inflammation, too. Some of its uses are:
* Assists with the healing of bed sores.
* When applied to a new cut, scrape or burn, assists with prevention of scars.
* Provides sunburn relief.
* Massage on muscle aches and strains.
* Very helpful for arthritis pain and inflammation.
* Provides canker sore relief.
* Useful for diaper and heat rash.
* Massage on children who have "growing pains" in their extremities.
* Assists with prevention of stretch marks; once stretch marks are present, assists with eliminating accompanying dryness and itchiness. Makes tight skin more supple. Shelf-Life - 6 months to a 1 year. If kept properly in airtight container, Should be refrigerated after opening.
4. Foraha Oil - Slightly waxy oil is rich and thick. Foraha is a traditional medicine in the So. Pacific, where it is used for its analgesic, antiinflammatory and cicatrizant properties. Formerly, foraha was used to treat leprosy. It helps wounds to heal and is soothing for eczema and skin irritations such as burns, rashes and insect bites. It is used as an aid for relieving pain, healing wounds, herpes lesions and post-surgical scars. A combination of foraha and Ravensara aromatica essential oil has been used successfully as a treatment for shingles.
5. Avocado Oil - (10%-20% dilution) Skin problems, especially eczema and psoriasis, respond to its high content of vitamins A and E. This is a highly therapeutic oil which is rich in vitamins A, B1, B2, vitamins D and E, protein, pantothenic acid, and fatty acids. It is, in most cases mixed with another carrier, such as Almond, or Grapeseed to make up at around 10% of the total carrier mixture. Shelf-Life - refined 12 months to 18 months. If kept properly in airtight container, Should be refrigerated after opening. Crude - 6 months to 9 months
6. Borage oil - (10%-15% dilution rate) is clear and slightly thick with very little odor. It contains an abundance of gamma linoleic acid (GLA), an essential fatty acid that the body uses to manufacture prostaglandins–hormone like substances that balance and regulate cellular activity. It reduces the aging process of the skin and reverses damage from ultraviolet rays. This oil is used to treat PMS, endometriosis, and menopausal discomforts, as well as for psoriasis and eczema. provide relief to people who suffer from chronic skin disorders such as eczema and atopic dermatitis. It is the richest known source (24%) of an essential fatty acid called gamma-linolenic acid (GLA). Shelf-Life - 3 months to 6 months. If kept properly in airtight container, Should be refrigerated after opening.
7. Evening Primrose Oil - Extremely helpful in treating menstrual and pre-menstrual problems, eczema and psoriasis. It’s useful in treating allergic skin problems. It is exceptionally high in fatty acids, and especially in gamma linolenic acid (GLA) which nutrition wise is important to the body, as it affects many of the enzyme functions in the body. Its healing action results from its high content of gamma linolenic acid (GLA), an essential fatty acid that is vital to cell and body functions and not produced by the body itself. It relieves sunburn and minor skin irritations, relieves dry, chapped skin, and builds strong fingernails. Cautions - The shelf life of Evening Primrose oil is not very long, it goes rancid quickly. To help it keep longer, blend in a small (often 10%) dilution with other carrier oils. Keep away from light and heat.
8. Grapeseed oil - High in vitamin E and is 76% essential fatty acid, linoleic acid (also known as Omega 6). It is low in saturated fat, contains natural chlorophyll and valuable antioxidants (known as proanthocyninidins), and has a good shelf life. Very rich in vitamins, minerals and linoleic acid. Shelf Life - 6 months to 1 year. If kept properly in airtight container, Should be refrigerated after opening.
9. Hemp seed oil - (Use no more than 10% in final mix to prevent spoiling) High linoleic and linolenic acid contents make it vulnerable to spoilage. Alpha linolenic, linoleic and oleic acids––the essential fatty acids known as the omegas––make up 88% of the total fatty-acid content. It contains more naturally occuring essential fatty acids than any other plant-derived oil and a perfect 3:1 Omega-6: Omega-3 EFA ratio. The oil also contains the natural anti-oxidant vitamin E and sterols which blocks cholesterol absorption. It is also a cell regenerator and helps soothe muscles. Its particularly moisturizing for dry, damaged skin and for eczema and psoriasis. This oil requires cool, dark, oxygen-free storage conditions. An unopened container can be stored in the deep freezer indefinitely and in the refrigerator for a year.
10. Aloe Vera Oil - It may also be used for internal or oral applications. The juice, extract and oil is said to encourage skin rejuvenation, healing of wounds and treatment of sunburn. It is also used to help in relieving arthritis pain, improving blood circulation, reducing scarring, and has anti-inflammatory properties. It is a superb penetrating moisturizing agent, helping to stimulate the body's immune system while being naturally hypoallergenic with about the same pH balance as the skin. Store at or slightly below room temperature, away from light. Cautions - There are no known side effects or cautions with aloe vera. Shelf-Life - 6 months to a 1 year. If kept properly in airtight container, Should be refrigerated after opening.
11. Rosehip Seed Oil - This oil reduces scarring, heals burns, and softens scars and keloids. It is high in GLA, and has recently been used to help reduce the signs of ageing, especially the fine lines around the eyes and lines around the mouth, the drying effects of the sun and climate, as well as assisting with attenuating both accidental and surgical scars, healing burns, and stretch marks. It can help diminish broken capillaries, but may also aggravate acne or blemished skin. The application of rosa mosqueta oil produced rapid healing of the inflammation, darkening and dermatitis caused by radiation. This is the best antiaging oil to use in skin care. However, it may turn rancid quickly and should be stored in a cool place or refrigerated. Cautions - It is usually blended in a small (often 10%) dilution with other carrier oils.
12. Walnut Oil - Very unsaturated, walnut oil presents good moisturizing, anti-aging, regenerative, emollient and toning properties. Walnuts contain a host of other important vitamins and minerals. Walnut oil is useful against fungal and parasitic infections. It may also help eliminate warts, and when rubbed on the skin, walnut is reputed to be beneficial for eczema, herpes, psoriasis, and skin parasites. The oil has traditionally been used externally in the treatment of gangrene, leprosy, and wounds. Cautions - Non-toxic, Non-irritant. This carrier can be used in any cosmetic product as an active principle or as a carrier, without any proportion limit. Considered to be safe in all normal applications. Shelf-Life - 6 months to a 1 year. If kept properly in airtight container, Should be refrigerated after opening.
1. Jojoba - It's loaded with vitamins and minerals and leaves the skin silky soft. Excellent for psoriasis, eczema, acne, and hair care too. It penetrates the skin rapidly to nourish it; also softens and moisturizes mature and dry skin. Jojoba helps to heal inflamed skin conditions such as psoriasis or any form of dermatitis, helps control acne and oily scalps. Since it has antioxidant properties, it can keep other oils from going rancid. Cautions - It is frequently blended in a small dilution (10%) with other carriers. It has a very long shelf-life.
2. Black Seed Oil - Its shelf life is at least 18 months when kept in a cool place and away from direct light. contains thymoquinone and thus may be useful as a treatment for rheumatism and related inflammatory diseases. The oil is said to contain p-cymene and thymoquinone as well as oleic acid, linoleic acid, linolenic acid. The total average sterol content of this oil is 51% and includes 63% beta-sitosterol, 17% stigmasterol, an 15% campesterol.” It's not a very liquid oil and is also safe for internal use.
3. Emu oil - Anti-bacterial, anti-inflammatory, skin regenerative, high in oleic acid (oleic acid has better skin-penetrating qualities than vegetable oils), moisturizing, doesn’t clog pores, penetrates through several layers of skin. The bottle of Emu oil should be shaken ever so lightly to mix the contents prior to each use. is now being used at top hospital burn centers across the country as a crucial aid to healing burned skin tissue, aiding elasticity, lubrication and diminishing scarring. Great for arthritis pain and inflammation, too. Some of its uses are:
* Assists with the healing of bed sores.
* When applied to a new cut, scrape or burn, assists with prevention of scars.
* Provides sunburn relief.
* Massage on muscle aches and strains.
* Very helpful for arthritis pain and inflammation.
* Provides canker sore relief.
* Useful for diaper and heat rash.
* Massage on children who have "growing pains" in their extremities.
* Assists with prevention of stretch marks; once stretch marks are present, assists with eliminating accompanying dryness and itchiness. Makes tight skin more supple. Shelf-Life - 6 months to a 1 year. If kept properly in airtight container, Should be refrigerated after opening.
4. Foraha Oil - Slightly waxy oil is rich and thick. Foraha is a traditional medicine in the So. Pacific, where it is used for its analgesic, antiinflammatory and cicatrizant properties. Formerly, foraha was used to treat leprosy. It helps wounds to heal and is soothing for eczema and skin irritations such as burns, rashes and insect bites. It is used as an aid for relieving pain, healing wounds, herpes lesions and post-surgical scars. A combination of foraha and Ravensara aromatica essential oil has been used successfully as a treatment for shingles.
5. Avocado Oil - (10%-20% dilution) Skin problems, especially eczema and psoriasis, respond to its high content of vitamins A and E. This is a highly therapeutic oil which is rich in vitamins A, B1, B2, vitamins D and E, protein, pantothenic acid, and fatty acids. It is, in most cases mixed with another carrier, such as Almond, or Grapeseed to make up at around 10% of the total carrier mixture. Shelf-Life - refined 12 months to 18 months. If kept properly in airtight container, Should be refrigerated after opening. Crude - 6 months to 9 months
6. Borage oil - (10%-15% dilution rate) is clear and slightly thick with very little odor. It contains an abundance of gamma linoleic acid (GLA), an essential fatty acid that the body uses to manufacture prostaglandins–hormone like substances that balance and regulate cellular activity. It reduces the aging process of the skin and reverses damage from ultraviolet rays. This oil is used to treat PMS, endometriosis, and menopausal discomforts, as well as for psoriasis and eczema. provide relief to people who suffer from chronic skin disorders such as eczema and atopic dermatitis. It is the richest known source (24%) of an essential fatty acid called gamma-linolenic acid (GLA). Shelf-Life - 3 months to 6 months. If kept properly in airtight container, Should be refrigerated after opening.
7. Evening Primrose Oil - Extremely helpful in treating menstrual and pre-menstrual problems, eczema and psoriasis. It’s useful in treating allergic skin problems. It is exceptionally high in fatty acids, and especially in gamma linolenic acid (GLA) which nutrition wise is important to the body, as it affects many of the enzyme functions in the body. Its healing action results from its high content of gamma linolenic acid (GLA), an essential fatty acid that is vital to cell and body functions and not produced by the body itself. It relieves sunburn and minor skin irritations, relieves dry, chapped skin, and builds strong fingernails. Cautions - The shelf life of Evening Primrose oil is not very long, it goes rancid quickly. To help it keep longer, blend in a small (often 10%) dilution with other carrier oils. Keep away from light and heat.
8. Grapeseed oil - High in vitamin E and is 76% essential fatty acid, linoleic acid (also known as Omega 6). It is low in saturated fat, contains natural chlorophyll and valuable antioxidants (known as proanthocyninidins), and has a good shelf life. Very rich in vitamins, minerals and linoleic acid. Shelf Life - 6 months to 1 year. If kept properly in airtight container, Should be refrigerated after opening.
9. Hemp seed oil - (Use no more than 10% in final mix to prevent spoiling) High linoleic and linolenic acid contents make it vulnerable to spoilage. Alpha linolenic, linoleic and oleic acids––the essential fatty acids known as the omegas––make up 88% of the total fatty-acid content. It contains more naturally occuring essential fatty acids than any other plant-derived oil and a perfect 3:1 Omega-6: Omega-3 EFA ratio. The oil also contains the natural anti-oxidant vitamin E and sterols which blocks cholesterol absorption. It is also a cell regenerator and helps soothe muscles. Its particularly moisturizing for dry, damaged skin and for eczema and psoriasis. This oil requires cool, dark, oxygen-free storage conditions. An unopened container can be stored in the deep freezer indefinitely and in the refrigerator for a year.
10. Aloe Vera Oil - It may also be used for internal or oral applications. The juice, extract and oil is said to encourage skin rejuvenation, healing of wounds and treatment of sunburn. It is also used to help in relieving arthritis pain, improving blood circulation, reducing scarring, and has anti-inflammatory properties. It is a superb penetrating moisturizing agent, helping to stimulate the body's immune system while being naturally hypoallergenic with about the same pH balance as the skin. Store at or slightly below room temperature, away from light. Cautions - There are no known side effects or cautions with aloe vera. Shelf-Life - 6 months to a 1 year. If kept properly in airtight container, Should be refrigerated after opening.
11. Rosehip Seed Oil - This oil reduces scarring, heals burns, and softens scars and keloids. It is high in GLA, and has recently been used to help reduce the signs of ageing, especially the fine lines around the eyes and lines around the mouth, the drying effects of the sun and climate, as well as assisting with attenuating both accidental and surgical scars, healing burns, and stretch marks. It can help diminish broken capillaries, but may also aggravate acne or blemished skin. The application of rosa mosqueta oil produced rapid healing of the inflammation, darkening and dermatitis caused by radiation. This is the best antiaging oil to use in skin care. However, it may turn rancid quickly and should be stored in a cool place or refrigerated. Cautions - It is usually blended in a small (often 10%) dilution with other carrier oils.
12. Walnut Oil - Very unsaturated, walnut oil presents good moisturizing, anti-aging, regenerative, emollient and toning properties. Walnuts contain a host of other important vitamins and minerals. Walnut oil is useful against fungal and parasitic infections. It may also help eliminate warts, and when rubbed on the skin, walnut is reputed to be beneficial for eczema, herpes, psoriasis, and skin parasites. The oil has traditionally been used externally in the treatment of gangrene, leprosy, and wounds. Cautions - Non-toxic, Non-irritant. This carrier can be used in any cosmetic product as an active principle or as a carrier, without any proportion limit. Considered to be safe in all normal applications. Shelf-Life - 6 months to a 1 year. If kept properly in airtight container, Should be refrigerated after opening.
MEATHEAD99
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I usually mix about 50% Walnut or grape seed oil with a combination of several of the other oils at around 10% - 15% each. Also if you want to make sure the oils do not go bad or rancid it is good to add Grapefruit seed extract and/or T-50 all natural vitamin E oil. Both of these will preserve the life of the carrier oils. I usually use about 2% Grapefruit seed extract. Products that contain as little as 0.1 percent GSE have an indefinite shelf life. In concentrations up to 1 or 2% of volume total, GSE is useful not only in preserving the product, but also in protecting the consumer from bacterial infection. Vitamin E contains Tocopherols which are nature’s perfect antioxidant. The optimal level of tocopherols in finished products will range from 0.01% to 0.2% of the oil content. Because antioxidants can only prevent oxidation, not reverse it, it is important to add the antioxidant as early in the process as possible. Tocopherols also slow the onset of rancidity oils.
You can go here to buy both of these along with almost any oil or essential oil you can think if: http://www.bestdeal.org/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=Essential&Category_Code=17
I always make my gear with both GSE and Vitamin E and have never had any extra pain or problems. But I always mix all of the oils together that I am using and then filter them with a Stericup Filter Unit .22 µm PVDF or Nalgene Filter Unit .20 µm PES into a Glass Media Bottle which I store in the freezer. Then when I am ready to add my favorite hormone I take it out of the freezer warm it up and follow the normal procedure to make whatever injectable I am making. Then at the end I filter the final solution again with a Stericup Filter Unit .22 µm PVDF or Nalgene Filter Unit .20 µm PES.
You can find the vacum filtration supplies here: http://researchlabsupply.com/Scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=28
You can go here to buy both of these along with almost any oil or essential oil you can think if: http://www.bestdeal.org/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=Essential&Category_Code=17
I always make my gear with both GSE and Vitamin E and have never had any extra pain or problems. But I always mix all of the oils together that I am using and then filter them with a Stericup Filter Unit .22 µm PVDF or Nalgene Filter Unit .20 µm PES into a Glass Media Bottle which I store in the freezer. Then when I am ready to add my favorite hormone I take it out of the freezer warm it up and follow the normal procedure to make whatever injectable I am making. Then at the end I filter the final solution again with a Stericup Filter Unit .22 µm PVDF or Nalgene Filter Unit .20 µm PES.
You can find the vacum filtration supplies here: http://researchlabsupply.com/Scripts/prodList.asp?idCategory=28
paperbolix
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thx meat thats some useful tips 
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