Getting started on IGF

Hi guys, very impressed with the info on this forum, definitely the most cutting edge stuff I have read. Am considering doing a 50 day course of IGF-1 LR3 at 60 mcg per day, I will be using the IGtropin by GenSci. Was just wondering if you could give me an idiots guide to using this stuff basically from when I get it how to mix, store, inject and do I need anything to come off it, will be running it with test enanthate, prop and D-bol. Appreciate any help.

i'm pretty sure there are idiot guides out there, but essentially...

store in original vial in the fridge(although recent tests indicate the stuff's stable enough this isn't necessary, it will still be more potent), and never dilute unless with the original diluent, beit BA or AA(dunno which igtropin uses). when you go to do a shot, load a very small amount -- 4 iu's would be 40mcg with most of these -- and fill most of the rest of the slin syringe with bacteriostatic water or vitamin b-12 so you don't eat clean through your flesh like some morons have done.

shoot im twice a day. some people shoot bodyparts they're training but that's pretty pointless because exercise doesn't upregulate your IGF-I receptors like it does for slin. you will very likely experience local site growth. much better for bulking than cutting; igf-i has been demonstrated to not have any protein preservation properties, but the anabolism is just sick, even apart from the hyperplasia.

no need to taper or anything coming off. it will suppress your GH production to some degree based on dosage, but nothing severe.

Cheers mate, just a few more questions if you don't mind. Can I shoot into any muscle group or should I only shoot the smaller muscle groups? Once the IGF is mixed in the vial with the dilutent how long does it stay potent for? The reason I ask is that when GH is mixed it basically dies within a few days and if I mix the entire 1mg will it still work in 2 weeks?

shoot wherever. one of the people marketing this recently completed a mini-study and found potency seems to last over a year suspended in BA and over 2 in AA. a really long time regardless so the diluent doesn't matter much as long as you're using the proper diluent; if you're not it'll die as fast as gh.

What are your stats? Age, weight, lifting history, cycle history....don't lie, you're only hurting yourself by giving us false info.

60mcg is quite a lot for a first time user, as is running it for 50 days. Unless you're a non-responder than 60mcg would be excessive. Most feel that 50mcg is just right, and even then they get a lot of sides.

I am 25 been training for approximately 3 1/2 years. My starting weight was about 135 lbs, I trained naturally for 2 1/2 years and reached a weight of 190 lbs at about 10% bf then began using some gear. Have done 5 cycles the largest being 3 sust per week, 300 mg tren p.w and 8 dbol a day for 7 weeks followed by 5 weeks on 800 mg viromone and 350 mg stanozol tabs p.w. at the end of this I was 220 lbs but carrying too much bodyfat was about 16%. Have competed a few times now and at my heaviest was 197 lbs. My last cycle was purely anabolics with a 4 week course of insulin post workout which worked well im currently on a break from the juice and will be for another 8 weeks at least, am 215 lbs at the minute and am about 7% b.f. which I'm very happy with. Thats about as honest as my memory permits. Have become interested in IGF-1 and want to give it a trial run, most of what I read indicated 60 mcg was an optimum dose if split into am and pm shots but of course thats why I came on this forum to get some real life experiences and some sound advice. A lot of other guys in the gym are becoming interested in it too so I took it on myself to get as much info as possible before we touch the stuff. All comments appreciated.

Bro I think yur fine with 60. I used it at 60 my first time with decent results. Are you using any gear with it? I would.

Going to use 1000 mgs test enanthate 400 mg equipoise per week and 70 mg dbol every day, 40 mg nolvadex per day and 8 i.u. of insulin after training. I have read that IGF-1 increases insulin sensitivity so I will need to take in a lot more carbs post workout, is that correct? I know it is a pretty big cycle but hey I want to be a pretty big guy at the end of it. I will of course be getting my blood tests done with the doctor as I always do, I may not be in the game long but I know health is the most important thing. Appreciate all your comments finally I have found a decent discussion forum.

Forgot to ask you Brew, what sort of gains did you get first time round with the 60 mcgs? What gear did you use with it?

Be careful with the slin, bro. We wouldn't want to hear that something bad happened.

tonykemp said:

Be careful with the slin, bro. We wouldn't want to hear that something bad happened.

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bump...your not going to have to use as much slin with IGF...

Normally use between 8-10 i.u. of insulin 15 minutes before I finish training monday to Friday, what would you recommend I use with the IGF-1? I don't want anything bad to happen to me either.

I think 60mcg's is overkill for first time using igf-1. I have heard a better way of using it is 1 month on, then one month off. For the first usage 40mcg's split into two shots (on am and one pm) will be plenty for first timer. For your second run I'd increase to 60-80mcgs and run that for another month. The stuff is pure gold, I used it in my last cycle and gained another 20 pounds halfway through my cycle (and had already gained 15-20 pounds while on just test/dbol/and a bit of tren). That's just what I have been recommended by a number of bros, it worked for me...goodluck man, you will love it!!!

I'm starting to fall in love with it already and I have not even tried it.

The stuff is pure liquid gold! By far the most incredible compound I have tried...too bad it is so damn expensive. Ah well some day we shall meet again

What IGF did you use? The one on this site is fairly cheap compared to the sort of prices we pay over in Ireland.

Yeah, what one? IGF (lr3-IGF) doesn't normally produce a really large increase. I, too, love the stuff, and it has helped me gain some permanent lbm and lose bf, but you have to have patience with the stuff.

Hmmm...it could have been due to whatever tanker was on during his cycle coupled with the possiblity that he responds really well to IGF plus eating really good. Most of the ones who have tried IGF here have said they didn't respond like that even when on cycle and IGF so don't expect phenomenal gains. You will gain, but most don't gain 20 lbs worth.

MC's IGF is the real thing and they have the best price overall. See how you respond with 40mcg first, then if you aren't responding, increase to 60mcg.

The kind I use does not have a label, comes from a trusted 'friend'. I've been told that alot of the US companies that make research grade are sketchy and cannot be trusted to eagerly...therefore I get mine from canada only. I pay a hefty amount for it but it is indeed all worth it...I know it is legit and have felt the numb on thy finger tips.

As for the 20 pound gain being attributed to the gear I was on, I can rule that out entirely as I got ripped badly on my last cycle with low dose gear...its tough when companies with known quality start to underdose their gear... But it also displays the effectiveness of quality igf-1 when used properly. I took two 20mcg shots per day - one in am and again in pm. I took it for 25 days only. Next time round I will use 60-80mcgs depending on funds. The stuff rocks plain and simple. I believe for those who do not respond off it they are either getting low dose gear or bunk gear. But that is just my opinion and results with it.

im taking 80mcg of igf1-lr3 on training days only(mon-tues-thurs).i take it 1 hour before i train(why?cause i found that i like it best when i take it then).then i take 10ius of insulin right after im done training.after that i have to eat constently for the next 5 hours or i will go hypo.it is very dangerous to take insulin with igf but if your smart then you will be fine.do not think its no big deal cause it is.even with humilin-r after 4 hours i still have to keep eating.when i im taking just the slin i can stop eating after 4 hours but not with igf and slin.even after 5 hours i always keep a carbo force handy cause a couple of times it hit me late in the night.but let me tell you i can actually feel myself growing throughout the night.i have taken igf about 7 or 8 times within the last year and a half and this time i grew in 3 days what used to take 2 weeks with igf.igf is my all time favorite substance.i love the stuff.
later

80 is quite a bit, how is it going