Help w/h2o Winny Based Conversion

First time poster that needs help with winny conversion...

I found online recipe to make 20 ml Winny suspension @ 100mg/ml (no surfactant, ie, polysorbate 80). I started by mixing 2g winny powder with .5ml ba and 4ml peg. I then placed on heated pancake griddle. I understand winny has a high melting point (was told 450f or so) so I cranked
to 400f (max) and watched.

Long story, short...after about 5-10min, (and even though I'd occasionally pick up & swirl) it turned to a pasty white mess. I couldn't get into an 18g pin, nor was there any way I was going to get through a Whatman.

So I tried again...
Heating more slowly. This time it was more watery milky white solution (as expected), but any attempt to get into 18g would immediately clog the pin.

Please help. I have capsule machine and around 5gr powder left, and I was thinking of simply capping. I would, however, prefer to inject a) because I feel more is utilizable, and b) I hate to not be able to do something.

Here is the rest of the suggested recipe...
"now filter the solution into the sterile vial. after you filter use the remaining 1ml of peg and filter it thru the filter to purge any remainiing hormone. then run 30 or 40 ml of air thru it to make sure its empty.

after that draw up app 13 ml of bac water with a 18g pin. drip it one drop at a time into the sterile vial. be easy and ont get in a hurry. let the water hit the side of the vial and run down. after water is dripped in swirl gently to mix all ingredients ones they are mixed then you can shake it vigurously.

walaa you have 20ml of winny 100 that is ready to go."

Thanks in advance to any helpful thoughts,ideas,comments.

welcome and we have plenty of guys who can help unfortunatly im not one of them and I love you answer for (B) lmao,

that doesn't seem to be enough solvent for 2 grams, hence the paste. trying to figure out whats wrong here.... btw winny melting point is around 375 f

try these...

Can't remember where I came about these...here ya go...

Materials needed
PEG 400
BA 2%
BB 15%
Winny powder
Filter
Open Vial
Sterile Vial
5 or 10 cc sryinge
3 cc syringe
18 guage needle
smaller needle to relieve air pressure

Instructions:

1- Take the winny powder place in a open vial add BA & BB.
2- Heat vial till winny melts. I set mine in a frying pan on the eye of a stove, bring to heat slowly, and let cool slowly.
3- Add peg to mixture. Save 3 ml of you peg in the 3 ml syringe so you can purge the filter with just peg, so no winny is left.
4- Filter into a sterile vial.
5- Finished, should be a clear thick liquid.

For 5 Grams at 50mg/ml add
2ml BA
15ml BB
79.25ml PEG 400
5 Grams Winny

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Mix 1 g winny plus 1 ml ba plus 2.5 ml PEG 400 in to vial.
Heat until mix goes into solution (clear liquid)
Remove from heat and filter with .45 whatman into sterile vial.
Add 15.5 ml bac water to filtered product slowly but does not have to be drop by drop as you will notice the winny will not easily come out of solution-took me 30 seconds to add all the water-slowly but not drop by drop.
Swirl vial slowly until it seems cloudy and well mixed.
Shake the hell out of it as hard as you can...this will pull the winny out of solution and into suspension.
Cap and voila!

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Winny 50mg/ml suspension

Supplies needed
1 gram winny powder
4 ml PEG 300 (or 400)
2 .22um whatman filter
.6ml polysorbate 80
.4ml benzyl alcohol
14.25ml distilled water
1 10ml vial
1 20ml vial
2 18ga pins with 3ml plungers
1 5 ml plunger
1 10ml plunger


1.filter 14.25ml of distilled water through whatman filter into 20ml vial and add .4ml benzyl alcohol (for sterilization).

2. put 2 ml PEG 300 (or 400) into 10ml vial and add .6ml of polysorbate 80.

3. add 1 gram of micronized stanozolol powder to PEG/PS 80 mix and add to heat on a hot plate until crystals have completely dissolved into a liquid form.

4. let stan liquid cool a little and draw it up into a 5ml plunger with an 18ga pin. now run it through the whatman filter very slowly into the steralized water.

5. use 2 more ml of PEG 300 to purge the filter.

IMPORTANT: DO NOT USE THE SAME FILTER FOR WATER AND PEG MIX, IT WILL CLOG INSTANTLY.

6. as you drop the PEG/PS 80/Stanozolol mix through the filter into the water it will titrate back into micronized form in the water. when this is done shake it well and add to heat for about 10 minutes (don't let it boil).

7. let cool and shake again...whalla. perfect micronized winny suspention..

also, some people are allergic to PEG (it causes major pain and massive swelling) if this is the case you can substitute the PEG for 5%BA and 10% BB and dissolve the crystals in that (along with the PS 80).


Hope these help.

body2see said:

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I mean do you really save that much money??!

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yes

body2see...you save a whole lot of loot.....

...um...yes, it pays to be thrifty...and Organically inclined...might as well put all the damn school to use huh?

thanks!

Yep, body2see, as others have mentioned, you do save money (even if you f*ck it up a couple times like I did). I have yet to meet someone who doesn't enjoy getting more bang for their buck so instead of criticizing, perhaps you should read & take notes.

Thanks, slappy. I've seen variations of those. Couple questions come to mind:
1. At what temp & how long do you heat? My stove is scaled 1-10 so I'm unsure of actual temp (thus, the reason for using the griddle in the first place). I've asked around, and the consensus seems to be around 3-4 for 15-20 minutes.
2. And how long do you cool? Same (15-20 min)?

Also, I've recently read several posts from another board that don't use filtering at all. Of course, it's essential you a) trust your powder, and b) you trust the legitimacy of oil,ba,bb,etc.

Of the 3 you recommended, the middle is most interesting. Mostly due my having all ingredients (I don't have bb and poly 80 and need to order just to have on hand).

Taking this one step further, any have recipes or thoughts for winny in oil?

I would use a medium setting in your case for the stove...just don't heat to quickly.

As far as cooling, just untill you can handle the vitem safely without burning yourself...keep it pretty warm so it is easier to filter and so the mix doesn't cloud up before you can drop it into the water.

There is a post here somewhere about winny in oil, but I think it uses a kit for the the solvent. I am sure you can find it with a search and just use 3%BA and 12%BB for the solvent instead of the "super solvent" or whatever they call it.

I would just drink the shit.....its still winny, just bring up the volume with peg or pg to the desired conc. and drink, its gonna be pastey but it will be a hell of alot easier than fixing this mess.

brew said:

I would just drink the shit.....its still winny, just bring up the volume with peg or pg to the desired conc. and drink, its gonna be pastey but it will be a hell of alot easier than fixing this mess.

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This is the most hideous, ridiculous and horrifying comment I have ever read on any forums.
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PharmaHun said:

This is the most hideous, ridiculous and horrifying comment I have ever read on any forums.
uke:

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Please explain why this is so ridiculous and horrifying? I can understand the hideous as it will taste fairly bad. Its a 17 AA so it can be taken orally. None of ingedients are toxic, as orals are commenly made in peg with a small ba % if necessary.

Thats Y his name is brew