Sust 250

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mbitton

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• Sep 15, 2005

• #1

I'm trying to find a recipe/directions to make Sust250. I understand the concept for say Test Prop where you only need 1 substance, but how about Sust250 where it requires 4 different substances.

- testosterone propionate 30 mg
- testosterone phenylpropionate 60 mg
- testosterone isocaproate 60mg
- testosterone decanoate 100 mg

Is it as simple as using the Powder Calculator to find out how many grams are needed and then just use a % for each substance?

Any help is appreicated...thanks guys and gals

 

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mbitton

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• Sep 15, 2005

• #2

Ok so after doing some simple math...here is what I came up with.

Lets say I want to make 100ml or Sust250. I would need 25grams of substance. Would the brake down be

Test Prop - 3grams
Test Phen - 6grams
Test Isoc - 6grams
Test Dec - 10grams

Making the total 25grams?

Now for the second question, if I am on the right track so far, what would the BA/BB % be?

Thanks
mbitton

 

brew

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• Sep 16, 2005

• #3

sounds good use 2.5-3 ba and 7.5-9 bb. Let us know how it works, this something I have yet to do, but thats how I would try it.

 

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mbitton

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• Sep 18, 2005

• #4

Why so little Ba/Bb? The other board told me 2%/20%

What is the disadvantage to adding to much Ba/Bb?

thanks
mike

 

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PharmaHun

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• Sep 22, 2005

• #5

I would not use any more than 2% Benzyl Alcohol but would use 20 % cosolvent to keep the substance in liquid form.

adding to much BA/BB - won't kill you, might be more painful and you over load your body with unneccessary amounts of these chemicals. They are only used to hold the substance... However, if you underdose BB your sustanon might last for a while, but with time it would start crystallizing.

Your maths on calculating the amounts are spotless, make sure you calculate the percentage of the items included in your substance relatively: 12;24;24;40%.

I am a qualified Pharmacist and some threads are painful to read. Let me help!

 

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mbitton

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• Sep 22, 2005

• #6

Is there an article or any documentation stating how much BA/BB to use and why? Everyone on the boards just do what they read which isnt right. Im sure others have tried and tested but I want to know why I am adding 2% for a certain substance and 5% for another.
Do you know of any papers or has anyone written anything stating why we add x% of BA and x% of BB for different substances?

 

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PharmaHun

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• Sep 23, 2005

• #7

these infos are not given to you in any "official" book in any EU countries, USA or UK. I studied molecular reconstruction and fuel development for years, out of those spent a good 8-9 years studying 'behaviour of esthers'. Different hormone esthers have different molecular structure, on its crystals it depends of how easily it is going to be dissolved. Ba helps to dissolve and sterilize. on board people dont study these esthers, most dont have a clue what they look like structure wise and what that means.
Dont use any more than 2.5% BA in respect of any esthers, its MP, BP and structure, even the type of crystal will instruct how much BB needed.

 

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SlappyOil

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• Dec 31, 2005

• #8

Let me just tell you from experience that 1%BA and 15%BB is an EXCELLENT recipie...this will keep the larger esters better in solution.

..the 1%BA is ABSOLUTELY fine (and EVERYONE will argue with you about this)...of course, this is providing that you are using at least a .2 micron filter

...I would also mix all powders with your oil first (yes...oil first) then add BB and once it is in solution add the BA (heating at 140 C will work fine if you have a hot plate...and NO it will not damage the test esters)...

not painful at all with this mix and 0% microbial growth after 2, 10, and 30 days...we didn't test at one day post because the lab was closed

 

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SouthPaw

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• Jan 1, 2006

• #9

Do you think this would hold at 5% BA / 15% BB???

100mg Test Isocaproate, 150mg Test Cyp, 200mg Test Decanoate/ ML


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SlappyOil

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• Jan 14, 2006

• #10

I would use a max of 2% BA and 20% BB for safety sake...at 15 the cyp may crystalize out due to the iso...20% will not hurt you

 

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SouthPaw

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• Jan 17, 2006

• #11

Thanks!


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