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BillTheButcher
03-13-2006, 12:37 PM
Does anyone know if there is a law against people begging inside of a store?

I work in downtown Orlando and a lot of homeless people beg inside of the Subway that most of us go to eat at. They will walk right up to you on line asking for money or even worse I was approached while I was eating.

Number one I think it is rude to disrupt people just looking for a quick lunch.

Number two, if I owned that store, I would be pissed off that my customers were being harassed daily by beggars.

Number three, I can't enjoy food when dirty people are walking around me.

I have no problem with helping the homeless however when people walk into a Subway and approach people that is where I draw the line.

One woman approached me while In was taking money out of my bank. She is lucky I didn't turn around and swing without looking.

It is getting tougher and tougher to walk down the streets without being harassed for money.

I like people who carry on conversations with themselves. AWESOME!

jaywooly
03-13-2006, 03:15 PM
I live just outside of San Francisco and go there frequently for the nightlife. The bums there are unreasonable. I hate being asked for money/change every corner I go past. It's rough. I just heard a story yestarday that a friend of mine had a friend who's face got spitted on for not giving away his loose change. I don't feel sorry 'cause the guy didn't do a damn thing about it. What a pussy. I would've killed the bum with my bare hands.

BillTheButcher
03-13-2006, 03:19 PM
I live just outside of San Francisco and go there frequently for the nightlife. The bums there are unreasonable. I hate being asked for money/change every corner I go past. It's rough. I just heard a story yestarday that a friend of mine had a friend who's face got spitted on for not giving away his loose change. I don't feel sorry 'cause the guy didn't do a damn thing about it. What a pussy. I would've killed the bum with my bare hands.

Well, one guy walked in today, no shoes on, dirty as hell, and stood in line asking people to buy him a sub.

Then he came up to people's tables and started asking. Screw that. I don't want his filth rubbing off on my food. They should outlaw people from begging inside of stores.

mikeswift
03-13-2006, 03:21 PM
I work in Manhattan and I'm faced with it everyday... it's actually gotten a lot better here in NYC the past couple of years. I remember about 12-15 years ago someone new would walk through your subway car every 3 or 4 minutes asking for change. I don't even look or aknowledge them anymore but it is annoying.

BillTheButcher
03-13-2006, 03:29 PM
Do they beg inside of eating establishments?

mikeswift
03-13-2006, 03:41 PM
no, they'd get thrown out in a heartbeat anywhere indoors... I know it's probably up to the store or restuarant to do it though so I blame Subways!

BillTheButcher
03-13-2006, 03:45 PM
no, they'd get thrown out in a heartbeat anywhere indoors... I know it's probably up to the store or restuarant to do it though so I blame Subways!

Well, only one person works there and she weighs like 90 lbs. Tough call between making a sub between a safe glass and kicking out a toothless wonder.

Presser
03-13-2006, 03:48 PM
i live 10 minutes out side philadelphia, they congragate at the lights near the bridge exits. i had a bum ask me for change i said no and he looked right into my center console and seen change and started banging on my window yelling that i was a liar,lmao, i shit myself actualy,lol

BillTheButcher
03-13-2006, 03:51 PM
i live 10 minutes out side philadelphia, they congragate at the lights near the bridge exits. i had a bum ask me for change i said no and he looked right into my center console and seen change and started banging on my window yelling that i was a liar,lmao, i shit myself actualy,lol

I try and stay clear of homeless people because most were released from pyschiatric clinics and put on the streets or some have serious addiction problems.

Presser
03-13-2006, 03:53 PM
I try and stay clear of homeless people because most were released from pyschiatric clinics and put on the streets or some have serious addiction problems.


u think thats true bro? i mean homeless mainly coming from psch wards and shit? I never pondered it much

PJT
03-13-2006, 03:56 PM
I was stopped at a red light just outside of Boston about a month ago and a homeless dude came to my window and asked me for some change. I'm a sucker and usually give them a few cents here and there, but I didn't have any so I offered him a package of starburst that had been in my car for over a year that I wasn't gonna eat. He politely said "no thank you" and walked away.

Presser
03-13-2006, 03:58 PM
i actualy also give in but only when i have some decent cash flow going on, gave a philly bum 10 bucks about 4 months ago, so im good to be an ignorant ass for another 8 months or so,lol

TheElmo
03-13-2006, 03:58 PM
bums in my area are thrown out as soon as they are seen in the stores peroid. They have the right to be at our parks though which kind of sucks. This one time I was downtown walking behing this short old nerdy white guy. He walks past a bum sitting on the floor and the bum tells the white guy. "I could use some change!" The nerdy guy tells him "Then try moving to France, Mother fucker!" LOL I almost poped one of my nutts I was laughing so hard.

Presser
03-13-2006, 03:59 PM
i actualy also give in but only when i have some decent cash flow going on, gave a philly bum 10 bucks about 4 months ago, so im good to be an ignorant ass for another 8 months or so,lol

or maybe i did it becuase the chick behind me at the light i gave the bum money to was hot!!lol and somewhere in my sick warped mind i thought she would try to catch up to me at the next light and say " your so nice, follow me home"

mikeswift
03-13-2006, 04:01 PM
bums in my area are thrown out as soon as they are seen in the stores peroid. They have the right to be at our parks though which kind of sucks. This one time I was downtown walking behing this short old nerdy white guy. He walks past a bum sitting on the floor and the bum tells the white guy. "I could use some change!" The nerdy guy tells him "Then try moving to France, Mother fucker!" LOL I almost poped one of my nutts I was laughing so hard.

that is some funny shit

Presser
03-13-2006, 04:01 PM
bums in my area are thrown out as soon as they are seen in the stores peroid. They have the right to be at our parks though which kind of sucks. This one time I was downtown walking behing this short old nerdy white guy. He walks past a bum sitting on the floor and the bum tells the white guy. "I could use some change!" The nerdy guy tells him "Then try moving to France, Mother fucker!" LOL I almost poped one of my nutts I was laughing so hard.


now thats funny,lmao

BillTheButcher
03-13-2006, 04:02 PM
I bought one guy lunch and a sale closed for me the same day. Cost me $4.00 and I made $550 off the sale.

I don't like being stalked. This guy was polite and asked for food not money.

mikeswift
03-13-2006, 04:15 PM
I've given people change and bought people food before. When I lived downtown on the East side I used to walk my dog in the park everyday and I always saw the same 2 homeless guys. I used to bring them old clothes and brought them an old blanket one winter. They were nice guys and never begged they just lived in the park and hung out there all day. I gave them $5 one day and told them not to waste it and one of them said don't worry it won't go to waste we're going right to the liquor store!

Glen Whitestone
03-13-2006, 05:05 PM
I was with my buddy in Manhattan and someone asked for change and he told him he did not have any. There was change in a tray and the guy stuck his head and arm in and said yes you have change. My buddy hit him in the face like 3 times with this long spring he had in his car wrapped in duct tape. What a mess it made.

vertigorocks
03-13-2006, 05:05 PM
u think thats true bro? i mean homeless mainly coming from psch wards and shit? I never pondered it much


thats definitly true at least for LI and NYC. Im not sure exactly when it happened but alot of psych wards had funding cut from then so they had to close and these places had to choice but to send these people out onto the streets. Pretty sad actually, i mean, the government can cut funding for something like this, but we can spend billions and billions of dollars bombing countries and then rebuilding them....or how the senate can vote themselves a pay raise. http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1005/102105r1.htm Im glad our government has their priorities in order...

BillTheButcher
03-13-2006, 05:07 PM
thats definitly true at least for LI and NYC. Im not sure exactly when it happened but alot of psych wards had funding cut from then so they had to close and these places had to choice but to send these people out onto the streets. Pretty sad actually, i mean, the government can cut funding for something like this, but we can spend billions and billions of dollars bombing countries and then rebuilding them....or how the senate can vote themselves a pay raise. http://www.govexec.com/dailyfed/1005/102105r1.htm Im glad our government has their priorities in order...

Yeah our government is NOT concerned with the homeless people in America,

vertigorocks
03-13-2006, 05:12 PM
not at all, theyre interested in making the division of wealth even larger. How fucked up is it that the ratio of pay from the bottom worker at a company to a top CEO is 300:1. Is what that guy does in that position really worth 300 times what the guy in the mailroom does? Depends on who you ask i guess. Conseravtive: yes, Liberal: no, Radical : Burn the building down, lol

Also, 90% of all wealth is held by the top 1% of people, sweet.... :curse:

BillTheButcher
03-13-2006, 05:14 PM
Join CMF bro. We will take over this puny planet.

vertigorocks
03-13-2006, 05:16 PM
Join CMF bro. We will take over this puny planet.


CMF represent! Im all in bro!

BillTheButcher
03-13-2006, 05:19 PM
YES! Spread the word man. Once we organize, we can commercialize then multiply.

CMF FOR LIFE!

vertigorocks
03-13-2006, 05:22 PM
We need make T-shirts, and workout gear and start a little business here, then when when we see someone with CMF gear, we can exclaim " CRAZY MUTHA FUCKAZ!" lol

BillTheButcher
03-13-2006, 05:23 PM
I am already thinking about shirts for CMF members.

I will write a pact later about what CMF stands for.

vertigorocks
03-13-2006, 05:25 PM
sick, let me know if you need any input, im out bro, im heading to the gym, ill catch up with you later. CMF!!!!!

BillTheButcher
03-13-2006, 05:26 PM
Sounds good. CMF!

dreww
03-13-2006, 10:09 PM
I was with my buddy in Manhattan and someone asked for change and he told him he did not have any. There was change in a tray and the guy stuck his head and arm in and said yes you have change. My buddy hit him in the face like 3 times with this long spring he had in his car wrapped in duct tape. What a mess it made.

Someone lunging into your car uninvited is deserving of such punishment.

kdog
03-14-2006, 10:03 AM
ONce had a lady as for money on the street one day. SHe said she was abused by her husband and needed money to get a bus ticket out of town. I was niave and felt bad for her and I gave her like $2. Two days later, I saw her on the train all hugged up on some guys with 2! cartons of cigarrettes. This is the last time i gave to anyone I didn't know... :angry:

BillTheButcher
03-14-2006, 11:21 AM
ONce had a lady as for money on the street one day. SHe said she was abused by her husband and needed money to get a bus ticket out of town. I was niave and felt bad for her and I gave her like $2. Two days later, I saw her on the train all hugged up on some guys with 2! cartons of cigarrettes. This is the last time i gave to anyone I didn't know... :angry:

You got played out. I saw some guy walk right into a liquor store with my money once.

What a waste.

mikeswift
03-14-2006, 11:58 AM
there's a hag who dresses up and stands outside or in Penn Station saying that she lost her wallet or it was stolen and needs money for a train ticket. She's smart she rotates between Penn Station, Port Authority and Grand Central Station. She has a briefcase and baggage with her and she's dressed like a business woman but if you look closely you can tell her make-up is kinda jacked up and her eyes are blood shot... I was a sucker and gave her a dollar about 10 years ago and then saw her again about 6 months later singing the same tune.

BillTheButcher
03-14-2006, 12:05 PM
there's a hag who dresses up and stands outside or in Penn Station saying that she lost her wallet or it was stolen and needs money for a train ticket. She's smart she rotates between Penn Station, Port Authority and Grand Central Station. She has a briefcase and baggage with her and she's dressed like a business woman but if you look closely you can tell her make-up is kinda jacked up and her eyes are blood shot... I was a sucker and gave her a dollar about 10 years ago and then saw her again about 6 months later singing the same tune.

Oldest trick in the book. Time for lunch so I will update this when I can't eat because a bum is circling the Subway.

How nasty is it to see dirty feet and nappy hair when you are trying to eat?

BillTheButcher
03-14-2006, 12:31 PM
Bum free lunch. I saw two walking by but the store was not crowded so they don't come in. The woman who works the counter at Subway told me that they try to keep the homeless out but they just sneak in at times.

I saw one walking towards me so I hauled ass over to the other side of the street.

mikeswift
03-14-2006, 01:32 PM
Bum free lunch. I saw two walking by but the store was not crowded so they don't come in. The woman who works the counter at Subway told me that they try to keep the homeless out but they just sneak in at times.

I saw one walking towards me so I hauled ass over to the other side of the street.

nice job in outrunning the bums today, I'm proud of you.

BillTheButcher
03-14-2006, 01:37 PM
nice job in outrunning the bums today, I'm proud of you.

Bums can be sneaky; sometimes I turn around and BAM there they are. I don't even think about it now, old clothes or some form of a gimp and I am out.

mikeswift
03-14-2006, 02:31 PM
now if you had on a CMF shirt they'd know to leave you alone...

jmacey22
03-14-2006, 02:38 PM
Just reading all of that has completely ruined my appetite. On certain mornings, when I have to take the train at 7am, theres a couple bums that rotate around and play some sort of shitty excuse for an instrument and then ask for change, like I'm gonna give money to some dirty fu(k that just ruined my morning by putting damned indian music in my head for the next 3 hours. Will CMF be cracking down on any of this melarchy?

mikeswift
03-14-2006, 02:48 PM
Just reading all of that has completely ruined my appetite. On certain mornings, when I have to take the train at 7am, theres a couple bums that rotate around and play some sort of shitty excuse for an instrument and then ask for change, like I'm gonna give money to some dirty fu(k that just ruined my morning by putting damned indian music in my head for the next 3 hours. Will CMF be cracking down on any of this melarchy?

we certainly will, join up brother and represent us in the Deutchland

BillTheButcher
03-14-2006, 02:57 PM
Jmacey...join CMF. We will promote help for the homeless however CMF as a whole will not cater to people begging in stores, trains, restaurants, etc...

CMF is looking for new members.

jmacey22
03-14-2006, 05:24 PM
In that case, consider me a CMF!!!!! Is this more of a 'gang' or a company? Either way, some sort of mission statement needs to be made. I have to say that of all the places I've traveled, places that get a lot of sun and hot weather definetly have the worst homeless people. I've never been to a place thats extremely cold, but i'll bet the bums arent bums for too long there 'cause it would just get unbearable with the weather. Anyone live in a place like Buffalo or something thats wicked cold?

BillTheButcher
03-14-2006, 05:27 PM
Put CMF in your sig. We are a gang. Once I have 15 members I will get shirts made and start a communication hubb.

I just walked outside for some air and another homeless man who was talking to himself made a beeline for me so I ran inside. I can't enjoy Orlando because the homeless population begs 24/7.

jmacey22
03-14-2006, 05:41 PM
The only time i'm ever a sucker for giving change is after I leave the bar and I have a bunch of change in my pocket and theyre still out there at like 2am, I'll give it to the dedicated ones. Have u ever seen those pricks that ask for money wearing beat up clothes/hair is a mess, but have on nice shoes? That shit pisses me off.

BillTheButcher
03-14-2006, 05:47 PM
They run around here without shoes. Nothing like a dirty foot in Subway to increase one's appetite.

mikeswift
03-14-2006, 05:49 PM
move back up here bro, there's a lot less homeless in the NYC since the Guiliani brigade of "No Tolerance."

BillTheButcher
03-14-2006, 06:00 PM
Very true. Most people down here look like they just spent 20 years on an island.

Fragments
03-14-2006, 07:09 PM
I definately see a strong connection between homelessness and psych problems. How hard is it to secure indoor sleeping arrangements?

mikeswift
03-14-2006, 07:10 PM
I definately see a strong connection between homelessness and psych problems. How hard is it to secure indoor sleeping arrangements?

Bill, this is the kind of thinking that deserves an invitation to join CMF.
What do you think?

kdog
03-14-2006, 07:30 PM
I definately see a strong connection between homelessness and psych problems. How hard is it to secure indoor sleeping arrangements?

LMFAO :laugh:

BillTheButcher
03-14-2006, 07:31 PM
Yes, Fragments would you like to join the revolution called CMF. See MikeSwift for details.