it's a lifestyle for me...and the thing is I just realized this a few months ago. I had been out of it for awhile, ya know work out for a couple of weeks and then I would get busy, or get hurt a little, or get some other reason not to go to the gym so I wouldn't. I finally realized if I was ever going to get where I wanted to be I had to make a conscious decision to train regardless of how tired I was, the kind of day I had, the minor injuries or pain I might feel, and the kind of time I thought I didn't have. Since that choice it has been gravy for me. So for those who really are going to see the gains they are wanting it has to be a lifestyle and not just hobby.